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Employees of Statutory Boards are entitled to receive a pension after being employed for ten (10) or more years. However, in accordance with Section 32 A (1) of the Statutory Boards Pensions Act, Cap. 384, persons who were employed with Boards after September 1975 and are entitled to receive a pension shall have that pension…

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Mia Mottley promised in reply to budget to restore pensions to Statutory Board workers

Employees of Statutory Boards are entitled to receive a pension after being employed for ten (10) or more years. However, in accordance with Section 32 A (1) of the Statutory Boards Pensions Act, Cap. 384, persons who were employed with Boards after September 1975 and are entitled to receive a pension shall have that pension reduced by the amount of pension payable by the National Insurance Office when this latter pension becomes due. It should be noted that those persons who were employed with the Boards prior to September 1975 would be entitled to a pension from the Board and the National Insurance Office without any reduction.

Our investigations revealed that the Statutory Boards have not been reducing the pensions of its former employees as required by the Law. This has resulted in these retirees receiving payments to which they are not entitled.

Auditor General’s Report 2011

Statutory Boards because of an oversight – BU suggests negligence -has resulted in several retirees receiving pension monies to which they have not been entitled over many years. One would have thought the error having been discovered should have been corrected forthwith. However the matter has become smothered in politics like most issues in Barbados. With a general election on the horizon the government is likely to not endear itself to pensioners who have had one pension cancelled.

Mia Mottley in her response to the Budget promised  to return the two pensions. Implied in the promise by Motley: should the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) assume the next government the Statutory Boards Pensions Act, Cap. 384 will be amended.

It is interesting we have not had more debate about this issue. In effect the BLP has promised to legitimize the illegal pension payments by Statutory Boards to those employed post-1975.

BU compares the BLP’s position on this matter to when government amended the Judicature Act to clear the way for CJ Marston Gibson’s appointment.

  1. To the point Avatar
    To the point

    @David

    the cut can be achieved if there is reduction of wastage, and a concerted effort to negotiatate better prices. Govt officeers do not leverage their clout to achieve better prices because some are too corrupt. Further, there needs to be a policy where the lights and ac are turned off at the end of the day.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    @Caswell

    You and others continue to miss the point of the blog. The BLP objected when the law was changed to accommodate Gibson. Now the BLP is recommending a law change to ‘legitimise’ a desired position. As we stated then and we state now the Act can be changed.

  3. balance Avatar
    balance

    “You and others continue to miss the point of the blog. The BLP objected when the law was changed to accommodate Gibson”

    that was never the point under the blog, the point was about implementation.

  4. Observing (and budgeting) Avatar
    Observing (and budgeting)

    @David
    thanks for the spreadsheet and I agree with the principle of your point (we shouldn’t change law solely to suit political gain) even though technically that’s what all parties do. I however firmly believe and agree with others that the change should not have been immediately enforced or applied to those who “did nothing wrong.” Apply it to those now retiring. Cutting a person’s disposable income in half after the fact because you “neglected” to apply a law is harsh to say the least. If Caswell is correct about ministers still receiveing it then we’re back in the days of discontent when parliamentarians raised their salaries unilaterally. The BLP held plenty political blows for that.

    @!
    “The BLP is telling people what they want to hear?

    What would you say about the DLP’s 2008 manifesto then?
    the one that theoretically got them into power?

  5. Observing (and budgeting) Avatar
    Observing (and budgeting)

    @David

    Just played with the spreadsheet. The argument that the revised tax bands “puts back” money taken from the taxes on allowances is a bit of a stretch.

    Anyone noticed the private sector response to the budget??

    Just Observing

  6. To the point Avatar
    To the point

    sometimes I am amazed about the logic of some of the bloggers here, they are not consisten in their reasoning, but will try to legitamize an illegal act. Now Frank Forde is known to have said that the allowances that were exempted from income tax should not have been, yet people waant the government to revert to the position of exempting people, incluiding the BLP.

    Lord come for this world. I dont seem to comprehend reasoning anymore, perhaps i am losing my brain cells.

  7. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Come day…come sweet day…put an end to this nightmare….

  8. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    I hear them now….sweet peal oh ring yes ring…..louder too

  9. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    the day ac and others so dreads….the blog might even shut down..

  10. ! Avatar
    !

    Owen Arthur is a proven liar and Mia Mottley knows it all too well. Imagine Mottley making a point and Athur whispering that she talking foolishness.
    The charade of the Mottley issue being fixed and solved is wishful thinking.

  11. David Avatar
    David

    @Caswell

    Let us agree the government can amend any Act.

    Let us agree that the pensioners employed after 1975 who have benefited from receiving two pensions will be severely affected by the government complying with the Act.

    Let us agree on the secondary point that had the Judicature Act remained unamended then a qualified Bajan would have been prevented from occupying the post of CJ.

    If we agree on the above we can move forward – laws can be changed!

    Can you advise what happens when court action is brought by soon to be retirees? Would the action of government – were they to go the route of grandfathering – not be considered discriminatory?

    Objective here is to flesh out this matter in a dispassionate way if this is possible.

  12. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Exclaim !
    You too …when the bell rings..ya gine Sh#e ya self….ole propagandist.
    ya better learn to Jones….cuz all like you so …gine B hard to find foreday morn….yeah i kno..shidester..

  13. ! Avatar
    !

    Imagine that after the BLP virtually bankrupted BNOC, the company had to be saved by the DLP and the government was criticised for taking action to save the organization., A BLP spokesman can stand up with a straight face and call for an expansion of the drilling programme.
    The BLP thinks that Bajans foolish, if the competent DLP government had not saved the BNOC, THESE BLP jokers could not now talk about a drilling programme. They neglected to mention this small point. A bankrupt BNOC could not have expanded a drilling programme and it is obvious that the DLP did the right thing.

    Alice in Wonderland gave a BLP budget response that was an insult TO INTELLIGENT Bajans- imagine a 500 million torism fund which they never could do even when the economy was growing, now suddenly – Where in the hell will the 500 million dollars come from?
    Even if you send home half the public service, you will not get 500 million dollars- Only an idiot would take the BLP proposals seriously.
    Either the BLP is lying or they plan to send home thousands of public servants and make people pay for secondary and university education. The maths simply does not add up.
    The BLP will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled.

  14. David Avatar
    David

    Onions

    We all know you support the BLP to the max but try if you to help BU lift the debate.

    Any feedback on the intervention by Arthur last night which referred to Governor Worrell and an ethernol plant producing 200+ million? Did not fully hear this point. Can anyone expand?

  15. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    Those soon to be retired would have no case as far as I am concerned. I am not talking about a legal right. I am simply saying that some of those pensioners were in receipt of those pensions for several years and should have been allowed to keep them because the reduction would cause hardship.

    The soon to be retired would have no legitimate expectation to receive the two pensions because no one ever misled them into expecting that they would receive both. Also they were never in receipt of both.

    What about the retired judge who is currently receiving the full pension. His was detected after the first payment and nobody did anything?

  16. David Avatar
    David

    @Caswell

    We ALL agree with your position about the hardship that will be caused to pensioners affected. What you need to fast forward to is the precedent sitting nature of the decision and legal implications for government. Let us discuss this point bearing in mind that in a perfect world the soon to be retirees should as you say have legitimate expectation to receive both.

  17. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    ! | June 29, 2012 at 6:54 AM |

    Owen Arthur is a proven liar and Mia Mottley knows it all too well. Imagine Mottley making a point and Athur whispering that she talking foolishness……………………….

    Only DLP hack like you would believe everything that comes out of the thug’s mouth. He was lying again, do you really think that Owen Arthur would whisper something to Chris Sinckler, a man who knows that the thug hates him. Damn liar!

  18. David Avatar
    David

    @Prodigal Son

    You are correct that John Public must be able to filter what is banter and what is debate. Most people watching should have interpreted Sinckler’s reference as the fluff of debate which all engage at times.

    About your earlier comment that the Arthur address to Clico function read by the PM – are you saying that although the speech was submitted by Clico writers it removed editorial license from the PM’s office?

  19. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Caswell Franklyn | June 29, 2012 at 2:27 AM |
    “All MPs will get two pensions, with no reduction, if they serve a minimum of 8 years. Ask yourself, why did they legislate a reduction for everyone else but not for themselves, judges and the Governor-General?”

    And this DLP administration is supposed to be building a “society” and NOT an “economy”. What a laugh! A society alright where there are laws for the politicians and their appointed cronies but another for the poor workers.

    Politicians and others of that ilk are financially able to make additional private provisions for their retirement (Private annuities & RRSP vehicle) but the average blue collar worker could scarcely afford to exercise this option when almost all of his disposable income goes to meet his basic needs.

    David, the BU Master, what is your view on this double standard? Shouldn’t the law(s) be amended to reflect some measure of consistency and equity in light of the much touted “Christian” tradition of the Bajan society?

  20. NEWCOMER Avatar
    NEWCOMER

    Now it seems most people agree that funding for tertiary education, hotel refurbishment, energy efficiency and food production are important for the growth and development of barbados. We seem to agree that the government is cash strapped and the private sector is not investing in these areas. So what are we as a country to do?

    The policy of the government seems to be that if, and only if, there is a NIS surplus (excess of contributions over benefit expenditures) of a minimum size in a particular period, then NIS funds can be channeled to the areas identified in the budget.

    Now there has been a critique of the tertiary fund in particular and some on this blog somehow see this as some evidence of incompetence on the part of the government. Please forgive my ignorance on these complex matters. But, if the NIS contribution rates are reduced and an education levy implemented, what if per chance in a given period the core NIS scheme runs a deficit can you then use the funds from the training levy to fund the core NIS activity. Based on the arguments I have heard from the experts that could be a problem (collecting funds for one purpose and doing something else, or putting the funds to a use without some minimum rate of return).

    I am no expert, but I think I get the drift of the government’s approach and why the thing is proposed the way it currently is. I am pleased that there seems to be a level of caution in the use of NIS funds. I am hopeful that the actual technical details can be worked out in a way that ensures that only surpluses are invested, but that the investments take place.

    The law was made to serve man and not man to serve the law. I am sure that a way can be found to ensure that monies collected by the nIS first go to meet benefit expenditures for the period and then if and only if there is a surplus of a given size that investments be made in the priority areas identified.

  21. NEWCOMER Avatar
    NEWCOMER

    what do the lawyers on this blog make of the view that if the 1,500 pensioners are restored that the others who joined the service after 1975 and are getting one pension would have a legal claim?

  22. RE Avatar
    RE

    So in practical terms, what does alternative energy and the incentives in this and previous DLP budgets mean for the average consumer of electricity in this island?
    Using the same example of last month’s electricity bill, if a homeowner had a 1 kilowatt solar system installed on his home it would have generated on average 6 kilowatt hours of electricity daily and a total of 180 kilowatt hours of electricity during the entire 30 day billing cycle. Utilizing the current Fuel Rider approved by the Fair Trading Commission governing the resale of renewable generated electricity back into the national grid, the homeowner in our example would have produced BD$169.00 in electricity last month. So in essence, last month’s electricity bill of BD$257.65 would now be reduced to BD$88.28 by virtue of the total electricity generated from a 1 kilowatt photo voltaic system being netted off against the homeowner’s actual usage during the billing cycle, with potential annual savings of Bd$2,058.00. Don’t believe me go to Light and Power’s website and check it out in the section “understanding your light bill.”
    What the budget has sought to do in a major way is encourage more businesses and investors to get into the business of producing and generating electricity from alternative energy sources, as well as distributing and installing renewable energy systems. The budget measures also seek to aggressively and quickly reduce the cost of installing systems to produce electricity from renewable energy sources. The budget initiatives further seek to provide businesses and homeowners with access to low cost and flexible financing to meet the upfront cost of installing such systems.
    At present, the average global installed price for a PV system is currently US$4.50 per watt or approximately BD$9.00 per watt. In real terms, this means that a competitively priced 1 kilowatt PV system in Barbados would cost approximately BD$9,000.00. So how do businesses and homeowners meet this upfront cost? At present without the incentives passed in this budget a 1 kilowattt system typically sells for around $10,000. With these incentives this price should come down significantly even with our private sector.

    In addition to the Smart Energy Fund (2o ml IADB funded) this budget also provides a mechanism for businesses in Barbados to access financing for their energy efficiency plans through the Hotel Refurbishment, Energy Efficiency and Food Production Fund, via preferred shares, a much more flexible form of financing than debt. There is also a $100ml fund to provide low interest loans, as well as other incentives for other private lenders.

    Of course we should not provide the previous incentives. A householder can currently claim back $10,000 a year for five years, he can this claim back $50,000 on a $10,000 system. A business can claim back $25,000 a year for five years, it can claim back $125,000.
    There has been much crying about land taxes and the government has provided ease. However, the businesses and the critics all seem to ignore that the land tax is halved for businesses and households who install a renewable energy electricity generation system.

    But the greater benefits to the economy do not end there, and I wish to expand this analysis to government’s vision of facilitating the installation of 35 megawatts of PV or Wind in the form of at least 35,000 one (1) kilowatt systems on the roofs of homeowners in the next five years. Adopting the earlier analysis 35,000 kilowatts of PV systems would generate on average approximately 210,000 kilowatts of electricity daily. In monetary terms, using last months’ Fuel Clause of .47 cents, this generation capacity would translate into savings in electricity and fuel imports of BDS$197,400 daily or BDS$144,102,000 annually. Added to this analysis is the fact that the average photo voltaic system has an average life span to 20 to 25 years with virtually no operating and maintenance costs and the absence of any inputs for producing energy other than daily sunshine.

  23. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    When will the DLP realize that pointing fingers in hope to apportion blame will not get them a second term, We the people are TIRED OF IT !….Stuart in his wrap up …hoped to rekindle CLICO….that is a dirt ball no one wid sense should consider….ask Mona…. Alibaba .a bad wrap if any.

  24. Educator Avatar
    Educator

    But David, documents seem to have a way of disappearing with OAS though. As far as I know documentary evidence of his divorce has proven elusive. His comments about Terri Ally which all heard are reputed to be absent from hansard, and now the FBI report.

    what a thing

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @David | June 29, 2012 at 7:09 AM |
    “Any feedback on the intervention by Arthur last night which referred to Governor Worrell and an etharnol plant producing 200+ million? Did not fully hear this point. Can anyone expand? “

    The Governor recently made a presentation to a business group in the USA ( I believe Arthur said Washington) in which he Worrell told the audience that the Barbados Government is about to implement a project that would involve the production of over 200 mill gallons (the unit of measure might be different). The establishment of the ethanol plant would produce enough alcohol as to meet the country’s hybrid fuel needs and the rest exported to earn foreign exchange.

    The question that we need to pose to the Government and its agent Governor Worrell is this:
    Where would the raw materials (tons of sugar cane) come from? Are we going to import the harvested cane from Brazil or from Guyana as we do to meet our molasses for rum production and our refined sugar for local consumption?
    If we can’t even grow enough sugar cane to provide the input raw material to meet our requirements for molasses for our rum industry and to produce refined sugars for our export quotas to the EU and enough to satisfy local needs now pray tell us how can we grow sufficient cane for ethanol extraction?
    Maybe the technocrats and agriculture experts can tell us how many tons of sugar cane that must be grown and harvested to produce a ton of ethanol. We might have to plant sugar all over the Island as we did 100 years ago to meet this ethanol production target. The biomass (old fashioned bagasse) from this Herculean target would indeed be sufficient to meet Dr. Estwick’s electricity generation goal of magically reconfiguring Andrews the proposed sole sugar factor to satisfy the electricity needs of 50,000 Bajan households.

    Maybe it is just another hot air political propaganda for electioneering intent. After all it’s the silly season and all the political parties’ magicians and the gullible fools call the electorate are in the circus ring for the coming show.

  26. David Avatar
    David

    @miller

    Thanks, hopefully an enterprising journalist from traditional media will chase this matter.

    On the issue of missing FBI and arthur’s divorce files what can be said except that we continue to be amused.

  27. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ RE
    Thanks for the information.
    However, with 1 kw PV systems costing about £3,000, the importation of 35,000 systems only would cost approximately Barbados $346,500,000. So in the initial stages it appears there would be an overall increase in the cost of ‘energy’ imports. The smart thing to do it seems would be to develop a PV manufacturing industry.
    Secondly, your submission ignores the fact that the people who most need the savings you highlighted are the poor and vulnerable–persons who simply are going to struggle to afford these systems even given the incentives. Furthermore what about the condition of structures. Does it make sense installing a system on a house close to dilapidation or a roof that needs repairing?
    Sadly, the government is so focused on the economic aspect of RE they are missing the social component, which is in contradistinction to their pretend mantra. At a time when people are reeling from high electricity bills how do you explain building all these houses without PV systems at Forde’s Road, Country Park, Valery and Carrington Village? Imagine the savings for occupants.
    Moreover, the $5m allocated annually to the useless constituency councils and the near $10,000 monthly salary for ‘Workshop Consultants’ would be better spent upgrading the homes of the poor and installing PV systems instead of expecting them to apply for loans they can’t afford or for government assistance through welfare and the same Constituency Councils.
    Incentives to encourage RE did not start under this administration. The problem is that government, whether B or D must take the lead. How many hybrids form part of the government’s fleet of vehicles? How many government owned buildings have PV? As was said in the house yesterday–all fluff by the government.

  28. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ miller

    That idea of switching to Andrews from Bulkeley I maintain is ignorance of the highest order. Land use policy, BU’s latest catch phrase, is not just about agriculture land vs housing.

  29. David Avatar
    David

    @enuff

    Tell us why Andrews is a bad location.

  30. Educator Avatar
    Educator

    there is a large middle class in bim that borrows large sums of money for consumption. the latest thing is cruises. yu would be surprised at the things these suffering people borrow money for and the types of consumption they undertake.

    they will not embrace this change because its not about bling and conspicuous consumption.

    The DLP can clearly do nothing even half good for the enuff’s of this world.

  31. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    It’s really amazing how FS could be so critical of Owen Arthur when it comes to that CLICO nasty affair. He might just be spitting up in the air.

    No one can deny that Owen Arthur played a part in this sordid CLICO scandal. During his tenure as Minister of Finance he failed to exercise due diligence and objectivity when the CLICO monster first reared its ugly rotten head. It could be argued that monetary contributions to his political party could have blinkered and emasculated his ability to identify early warning signals given off by CLICO. From his social interaction with Leroy he should have been more circumspect since it was no secret the LP was the biggest bull shitter, social clown and showoff in town. Both the corporate and private lavish and ostentatious lifestyle of the CLICO henchmen should have triggered an early intellectual warning that a business entrusted with a fiduciary responsibility for its clients savings, pensions and investments should not have been so profligate in splurging on its management, and by extension, giving out largesse for political favours.

    But for FS to be so seized with the facts and evidence -that linked Arthur with this sordid mess and Arthur’s past glorification and adulation of its management- and still got up in the same Parliament while cognizant of the same evidence and still praise and glorify the same CLICO and its “excellent” management is a sad reflection of his judgement and sense of fair play. In addition, an exchange of views with Jepter (now his chief sycophant and cheerleader) would have armed him with a more informed appreciation of the CLICO management abilities and the company’s financial health. Since we take to heart his advice regarding the required credentials of a TRUE Friend, he should have been aware that any bosom buddy of his in-house political foe DT, by extension, must be HIS enemy and not his estimable friend.

    To accuse Arthur of misleading the country regarding the existence of an official FBI report is tantamount to a dereliction of a commitment to good governance, the rule of law and the stamping out of corruption in public life. If he is of the notion- based on his discussions with his immediate predecessor- that an official report was indeed submitted to the then PM the obviously wise thing to do is to make an official request to the FBI-via the appropriate channels- for a “copy” of the said report. This would go a along way in convincing the people of Barbados that his public censuring and “denuding” of Mr. Arthur is based on evidence and not a puerile response to the targeted criticisms by the Opposition leader of his administration’s incompetence in managing the political and economic affairs as glaringly reflected in his inertia and ‘Galapagos tortoise’ like approach to decision-making in these challenging times.

  32. David Avatar
    David

    @Miller

    What is now evident and has come as a surprise is that his usual unflappable demeanour has changed with the general election season kicking in.

  33. ! Avatar
    !

    No one can deny that Owen Arthur played a part in this sordid CLICO scandal. During his tenure as Minister of Finance he failed to exercise due diligence and objectivity when the CLICO monster first reared its ugly rotten head. It could be argued that monetary contributions to his political party could have blinkered and emasculated his ability to identify early warning signals given off by CLICO.

    The truth shall set you free!

  34. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ David
    The ABC highway is the best route to and from the two ports. Where is Andrews in relation to the ABC as opposed to Bulkeley?

  35. Frater Avatar
    Frater

    @MILLER
    Well said.The 9 BLP representatives gave a solid and informed account of the state of the Nation now in the incompetent hands of the DLP.The sooner the election is called the better for all of Barbados.Let us rid the country of these misfits and their misguided intransigence.

  36. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ! | June 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM |
    “The truth shall set you free!”

    Tell that to Freundel Stuart! Like a good party propagandist (professional PR man of the damned lying party) you refuse to comment on both sides of the submission.
    Confession is also good for the soul. Until we hear a retraction from Stuart regarding his previous unswerving support for Leroy Parris and the well managed company called CLICO we will continue to view him as not possessing the credentials of a true friend he so eloquently established.

    Again, if he does, the Truth will set him free!

  37. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ Educator
    Did I make a case for the middle class? Stupse

  38. Leviathan Avatar
    Leviathan

    @ David

    The Prime Minister came out swinging last night against both Mia and Owen but to be honest he really reserved his best for a full frontal and most brutal attack on Owen.

    That was a shot accross the bow to all those who ready politics, namely, we have the FBI Report and the game of name and and shame will soon commence.

    The real tragedy (in one regard) is that the Legacy of OSA, a elder statesman of Barbados, is going to completely wrecked by the DLP (Stuart, Estwick & Sinckler) in this upcoming elections.

    Here is what will shock Barbadians; while Thompson would have used only enough dynamite to injure his political foes, Stuart & Co will be bound no such restriction and I am fairly confident that they will blow up the entire BLP show and Barbadians see first hand what the BLP was doing during their 14 years in government.

  39. ! Avatar
    !

    Any BLP supporters can tell Barbadians where the 500 million dollars for a tourism relief fund is supposed to come from?
    Oh by the way, when the global economy was booming the BLP could not find even 50 million dollars for such a fund but Alice in Wonderalnd gets up and tells intelligent Bajans that there is 500 million dollars out there for a fund- hahahahah –
    For all those intelligent Bajans from both parties, do not think that to make this statement with a straight face while at the same time saying that we have to cut expenditure is an insult to us all?
    I would like to see the funding for this fund- Could it be that the BLP is looking to send home thousands and thousands of public servants?
    Either that is the plan or Mottley is lying.
    As Sinckler said, she may not always tell the truth but she is no liar.

  40. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    @ Leviathan
    Every week it is a different ‘bombshell’ lmao. I thought it was Pegasus?

  41. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Leviathan | June 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM |
    “I am fairly confident that they will blow up the entire BLP show and Barbadians see first hand what the BLP was doing during their 14 years in government.”

    Do you really think the Bajan electorate are still interested in this kind of propaganda, political pettifoggery and puerile political stick fighting?

    We have been hearing from the DLP for the last 4-5 years what the BLP did and did not do for their 14 years in office. We are not daft or stupid we know what the BLP did and that is why we voted in January 2008.

    If the DLP have documented evidence of corruption against the BLP why not send the files to the Police and the DPP. A copy of the FBI report should not be too hard to locate unlike the CLICO report on the current PM’s desk. While he is requesting a copy of the FBI report issued during Owen’ s tenure let him also request one on the minister responsible for domestic erections called tropical ovens and who is one minister that cannot be moved in any cabinet reshuffle; not even under the pretense of his career development and need for broadening of ministerial experience.

  42. Laviathan Avatar
    Laviathan

    @ Enuff

    There is nothing more terrifying than showing political foe(s) the swords you intend to use to crave them and their reputations into pieces. The audia recording from Pegasus will be featured and will be the CBC (Thorne & Arthur) recording about the PM commissioned FBI Report.

    Wunna pull the lion tale and expect the rules of the game will remain conventional? Fruendel is a thinker and a planner and a student of the Art of War.

  43. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    @ ! | June 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM |

    No one can deny that Owen Arthur played a part in this sordid CLICO scandal. During his tenure as Minister of Finance he failed to exercise due diligence and objectivity when the CLICO monster first reared its ugly rotten head. It could be argued that monetary contributions to his political party could have blinkered and emasculated his ability to identify early warning signals given off by CLICO…………………

    Strangely enough the sorry excuse we have for a PM forgot to mention the role David Thompson played in the whole demise of CLICO by aiding and abetting a dunce Leroy Parris to swindle and rape this company. David Thompson got millions for doing little work and millions to put into Families First to run DLP campaigns. The Pm has now become what he was hiding all along that he is a typical DLP politician, they operate out of the gutter!

  44. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    I saw an idiot like Steve Blackett who is lucky to have been swept into the House by the sheer luck of a swing in the last election, throwing off his hands in disgust as Owen Arthur was speaking last night. Can you imagine that, these poor rakey politicians feel that they can disrespect Owen Arthur every time he goes into the House. The people deal with the likes of this poor excuse for a minister.

  45. David Avatar
    David

    @enuff

    Understand your logic but didn’t Estwick speak to cultivating in the Scotland District when would feed the RE plant?

  46. Cornwell Avatar
    Cornwell

    @ Enuff
    Don’t Panic………’Pegasus’ will be the icing on the cake. Can’t let out too much too soon…..

    Another thing, Re the FBI report…… Owen Arthur should try telling the truth sometimes ……..stay tuned

  47. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    You really mean to tell me that in 2012, the DLP will come back to use DLP 2007 election propaganda to try to win an election? Wunnah really think Bajans this stupid? Are you not aware that Bajans are hurting and they dont care bout any nasty politics from either side? I mean you all so desperate?

    While the desperate PM is at it, he should also tell the people if there is a FBI report on two of his ministers and if the investigations are still on going. Tell us if one of his ministers cannot leave Barbados. Tell us if one of his ministers was caught at GAIA with a bag full of dollars. The same dirt he trying to spew might come back right in his face.

    You know when people are desperate. Listening to this excuse for a PM last night, I really thought he had something on Owen Arthur, I did not know he was raking up the dead king’s filth to talk about. He really disappointed me, I did believe he was above the nasty fray, wow, he is a desperate Dem. Freundel better remember the fate of the dead king, the lies consumed him, God dealt with the liar. He better remember he is a bad diabetic.

    The people of St Michael South will deal with him or is he going to run up to St John!

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    millertheanunnaki

    @ Laviathan | June 29, 2012 at 11:58 AM |
    “Fruendel is a thinker and a planner and a student of the Art of War.”

    He is also a lover of English Literature, especially Shakespeare.
    I am sure he has read the play “Julius Caesar”. In which Caesar’s closest (nearly said closet) friend Brutus drove the final dagger in his side. “Et tu, Brute?”
    Freundel has more enemies in his cabinet and in the party than on the opposite of the political divide. The army he leads is riddled with agents saboteurs with 11 platoon leaders carrying daggers of deceit.
    He should surround himself with men that are thin and loyal and not obese doubly arrogant and backstabbing. Yon overfed Sinckler has a pompous and greedy look for power.

  49. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    David
    Isn’t Bulkeley more accessible including parts of the Scotland District?

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    Fractured BLP

    David of BU,

    It is with utter shock and dismay that I join this thread.

    Since retaking the leadership of the BLP in October 2010, Owen Arthur and his BLP accolytes have posited the view that Barbados lacks LEADERSHIP. The same group turned to the recent CADRES poll to reaffirm their view that it is Owen ahead…and all others behind.

    That is all well and good.

    Following last evening’s exchange over an alleged FBI report, Owen stated in Parliament to the whole of Barbados he never said the “report” was on his desk.

    I HAVE JUST RETURNED FROM VIEWING THE CBC TAPE WITH PETER THORNE POSING THE QUESTION TO MR. ARTHUR.

    YES THE TAPE INDEED SHOW THAT , MR. ARTHUR CONFIRMED IT’S EXISTENCE ON HIS DESK !

    But his blatant denial in Parliament….is great LEADERSHIP ?

    This was an issue that ruined the reputations of decent Barbadian citizens……and the great Owen Arthur just continued to sit on his throne.

    Last year at Budget time again Mr. Arthur denied chairing Cabinet during the decision to award VECO the contract to build Dodds Prison.

    Well no doubt when PM Stuart produced the Cabinet meeting Roll Call confirming those present and a Letter of Comfort that Owen Arthur signed for the benefit of VECO to do the job at Dodds.

    Owen Arthur had no legs to stand……..ON A POINT OF ORDER.

    DAVID of BU,

    I won’t disappoint you, trust me, the PEGASUS tape is worst so too is the $ 400,000.00 Audi SHOCKER !

    What a SHAMEFUL…..example of LEADERSHIP !

    Barbados deserves better.

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