Austin

The current DLP keeps telling Bajans that things are “OK and NOT that bad in Barbados”,  however below is the overall summary of the DLP produced 2012-2013 Barbados Estimates.  The DLP has given Bajans (5) straight years of a major account deficits due to poor fiscal alignment, budgeting coupled with ZERO fiscal vision for Barbados.

  • Estimated Current Barbados Revenue – $2,656,139,783
  • Estimated Total Barbados Expenditure – $3,645,859,147
  • Estimated Excess of Total Expenditure over Current Revenue $989,719,364
  • Capital Expenditure at January 31, 2012 increased by 6.2% over capital expenditure for the same period in fiscal year 2010-2011
(excerpt from DLP produced 2012-2013 Barbados Estimates)

Now you tell me BU does the 2012-2013 Barbados Estimates summary above give you the “warm fuzzy” that things are OK in Barbados, keeping the PM in mind and the possibility of giving the DLP another term?

A Few Facts

  • In 2008 under the BLP corporate taxes earned $499 million dollars today under the DLP corporate taxes are bringing in $203 million dollars LESS than 4 years ago.
  • In the 2011-2012 DLP projected budget revenue was 2.5 billion, actual revenue was 2.4 billion, a budget “over estimation” of $100 million.

Now a little on our recent Moody’s report which did not downgrade Barbados but “WARNED” that Barbados national expenditures MUST be reduced to avoid a downgrade in the next period (see excerpts from Moody’s report below:

Rating Outlook:

Barbados’ ratings have a negative outlook. The negative outlook reflects Moody’s view that while the worst appears to be behind in terms of economic deterioration, and deficits should continue decreasing slowly due to the government’s strategy of gradual fiscal consolidation, they will remain relatively large for the next few years unless the government takes more drastic action than currently expected. As a result, government debt ratios are likely to deteriorate further over the next 12 to 18 months to levels that may no longer be consistent with an investment grade rating.  The negative outlook also reflects the possibility that pressures on Barbados’ fixed exchange rate could result due to an anticipated rise in the current account deficit in a context of large and increasing government deficits.

What Could Change the Rating – Up:

Given the negative outlook, Barbados’ ratings are unlikely to face upward pressure in the near-to-medium term. However, the outlook could return to stable if Moody’s determines that (i) the government is likely to exceed current expectations regarding the pace of fiscal consolidation, (ii) economic growth is likely to pick up on a sustained basis, and (iii) the government demonstrates a credible plan to successfully reverse the recent increase in debt ratios.

What Could Change the Rating – Down:

The ratings will be downgraded if Moody’s determines that the recent increase in debt levels is not likely to be reversed in the near-to-medium term, or if pressures on the currency peg materialize.

In closing on this submission based on facts … you tell me BU does it appear that this is the time for us as a nation to be building a “society” like the DLP likes to say, or is this building a society talk a distraction from the real state of national affairs?


  1. On point Bruv, you have concisely presented the facts , we eagerly await their defence with bated breath.


  2. @Ken Smith

    There is no defense per se.

    What Austin’s submission does not acknowledge is the prevailing economic climate.

    While we can dismiss it it is a reality.

    However the facts show that the economy has been struggling, the debate will always be how much better can we have done given real world realities.


  3. The other issue has to do with comparing the BLP’s record to that of the DLP.

    Unfortunately it is a comparison the government will have to endure but it is like comparing batsmen from different eras.


  4. If bajans take time to look, listen and READ – the facts of the under-performing current DLP administration speak for themselves.

    Bajans wanted “CHANGE in 2008” and all they have received in the last 4 years is “POCKET CHANGE” …. And now they even want the “POCKET CHANGE BACK”.

    As a fair minded man;

    Blaming the global recession for the drop in tourism – I can understand;
    Blaming the global recession for the inadequacies and failures of the current government – I CANNOT understand.

    A few examples:

    – The global recession has NOT stopped the current DLP from getting our fiscal house in order by getting government expenditures under control.
    – The global recession has nothing to do with the “NOTHING BUDGET” submitted to bajans recently.
    – The global recession has nothing to do with the poor leadership in the PM office.
    – The global recession has nothing to do with a Ministry of Labor (Dr.Suckoo) who is clueless, when one of the things we need is a Minister of Labor with “a clue”.
    – The global recession has nothing to do with the FIO legislation promise long gone.
    – The global recession has nothing to do with wasted bajan tax payer dollars on bad tourism sustainment ideas (brazil?)

    Every time wrong in Barbados is not global recession related.
    – Man I got a headache – OH IT MUST BE THE GLOBAL RECESSION
    – My left foot hurts – – OH IT MUST BE THE GLOBAL RECESSION
    – Can I get some Cheese on my cheese cutter – NO IT’S THE GLOBAL RECESSION
    – Kids doing bad in school – DAM GLOBAL RECESSION

    This is a crop over 2013 song in the making 🙂

  5. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Austin boy nice one,
    Early this morning boy, people pun the outside TALKING…..this last increase in the price of gasoline like it hitting home…..flying fish $25 for 10 reddi bone have people stupessing… they say they not buying,… off road bikers..pun D steam, already we know prices in the supermarket going up up up ..keep it up fellas (Kelli &Co)..We getting it served on a silver platter, wid noteux too .

  6. Observing (and waiting) Avatar
    Observing (and waiting)

    @austin
    What’s ur suggestion for getting expenditure under control? Capital expenditure isn’t such a bad thing is it? Can anyone point to a reason for the corporate tax drop?

    As david said, the climate isn’t one that stimulates growth, can’t heap all the blame on the government. Curious as to how others would reduce debt ratios without any major “social impact.”. Hard decisions have to be taken, yea, but as another blog mentioned our “social partnership” may not allow for the medicine to be swallowed without a nauseating effect.

  7. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Observing
    Can anyone point to a reason for the corporate tax drop?
    ***************
    Ammm teacher teacher……the offshore industry exodus under this A……..$500 mill ,3500 jobs…Georgie did fall asleep ..teacher


  8. @Observing

    Yours is a good point if we take government’s announced policy that debt to gdp will be reduced slowly and avoid a draconian approach.

    Isn’t corporation tax calculated based on profit?

  9. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    No company here to start (pack up and gone)…….no profits to tax..no workers (3500 out of jobs )……no PAYE..no NIS collected….no $$$ to spend in town nor to spend on input Vat, on gasoline……no $$$ to pay shop assistance…..no $$$ in the Treasury….get the drift ?.

  10. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Teacher teacher….D bell ring we could go outside and play now.?…I wanna lick out annuda middle stump out the ground cuz Kellman soon gine B batting ( Brass tacks) ? he is the reason we eatting Sardine dis Good Friday and I vex vex……He YORKED ! just watch..

  11. Observing (and learning) Avatar
    Observing (and learning)

    Agreed David. Unsure of how the corporation tax is raked in though. a 200M drop is nothing to sneeze at.. The difficulty government faces is that the measures “seem” to be taking longer or not working..at least this is what persons like austin would want us believe. This is where an efficient spokesman (not speech reader) on the government side could explain the same questions we are asking here for a more balanced understanding of where we stand in relation to where we were…and where we’re going in relation to what we’ve been ask to “endure” now. this lack of education and message is killing us. As onions says…a teacher teacher is needed now more than ever.

    unions gearing up for salary talks after a two year hiatus…..That’s an immediate impact on the emoluments side. Uncertainty regarding removal of Vat. ..well…I can’t see it moving…Con. Councils helping with the electricity bills… may seem like plaster when some a good old cast is what’s needed.

    Notice too Arthur sounding the CLICO bells again as a matter of immediate national interest which he’s willing to adopt a bipartisan approach to….Tactician again. .genuine? maybe not. opportunistic? hell yes. Government on the back foot as we speak? definitely.


  12. @observing

    It seems clear that Senator Darcy Boyce is the architect of the government’s fiscal/monetary policy. It is also evident that he is loath to communicate outside the walls of Government House and the Upper Chamber.

  13. old onion bags Avatar

    Yes Austin ..to answer you bluntly we are in TROUBLE.

    To have moved from a $2 Billion in Reserves to this is deplorable position… ( a teacher needed ..no a Houdini) deserves a good cut arse .
    There is absolutely no excuse….World economies started to decline since 2005, and there was adequate warning signs coming from all around that the world was going into a recession,…to start buckling up and battering down.Did we see this NO.Instead there was continued extravagant spending,community councils,parties, first class flights and the like.

    Now we are reaping the sours of their follies. A late rush to increase collections( 2.5% Vat, Drug Service hatchet job, gasoline merry go round), while doing NOTHING about the lavish spending, could only speed on the inevitable… AND IT DID.
    No need for the awe, and surprises,….so called economists of ” doom and groom”, often engaged them and they were told this would be our position.
    Now everything is crumbling like a pack of cards……could we seriously entertain their woos ? DEFINITELY NOT…5 more years ? To do what nah ?


  14. The writer is somewhat CORRECT, Barbados is in major fiscal trouble. However suggesting the problem is solely of DLP making is INCORRECT.

    Barbados has been operating financially, for the past 10+ years, on a very slippery slightly downward slope. The have their revenue generating eggs in primarily two baskets, tourism and Off Shore Banking of which neither are they in any position to economically control. The global economy took a significant nose dive in 2008 and has been extremely slow to recover. Add in the EU economic uncertainties of 2011/2012 and you have major downward economic issues. Barbados has never positioned themselves to guard/protect their economy against any prolonged downward global shift and because of this is highly susceptible to fiscal failure. The only and sole reason the country has managed to stay afloat is by dipping extensively into the NIS funds to cover deficit’s. However the NIS surplus is just about exhausted and Barbados will have to go to the global market for funds and that’s when the GREECE scenario will kick in big time. It’s only a matter of time until Barbados will have to devalue it’s currency and borrow money from off shore institutions. Downgrading buy S&P and Moody’s will happen.

  15. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David | April 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM |
    “It seems clear that Senator Darcy Boyce is the architect of the government’s fiscal/monetary policy. It is also evident that he is loath to communicate outside the walls of Government House and the Upper Chamber.”

    The Barbados economy was like a fly-stick, set and just waiting for a foolish bird to spring it. The architect is a typical example of what older Bajans would call a “book-learnt” idiot just there to remind us of the local proverb that “Edication ain’t Commonsense”. Imagine coming up with a revenue collection measure of increasing the annual license fee on bicycles. Now how the hell can such a tax be collected? From the few old men that still ride their ‘Raleighs’ or ‘Humbers’? Certainly NOT from those young fellas who ride bikes without brakes, lights or reflectors! Who will collect the tax? The Police or the Licensing Authority? Such daft “creative” thinking is clearly a sign that says: “Caution! Monkey conducting business with a loaded fiscal gun in hand.”

    BTW, what is the latest with the marina project? Offshore businessmen pocket the $40 million and set sail for St. Lucia? OSA is a total let down in this area and should be made to walk the plank.

  16. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Though the CLICO fiasco nips away from the main chords of this sad sonnet, worthy of mention is the lack of remorse for the punishment the people endure…”We have nothing to apologize for.” says alot of the don’t care-ish attitude not to mention,grasping of the magnitude of what’s ahead of us come what may. Barbados reached the turning point…. ahead is a PERFECT STORM…..everything is right for collapse of the middle class. We need direction and we need it like yesterday.Why some make the decision to prolong the inevitable,smacks or arrogance to the nth.

  17. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ old onion bags | April 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM |
    “…. ahead is a PERFECT STORM…..everything is right for collapse of the middle class. ”
    Totally agree!
    It is that educated ‘middle layer’ of society that first sprouted from the 50’s and really expanded or burgeoned from the 70’s that is keeping this country one riot away from third world status or what some would call a “failed state”- (Hal, no offence meant just borrowing your phrase used in an earlier post). In the coming storm the so-called middle class and ‘nouveau riche’ are the ones most at risk. Not the well off, not the East Indian community, and certainly not the poor whom Black Stalin describes as sufferers who do not care about tomorrow.

    Life has a way of dealing us a hand we might not find attractive but any good dominoes player would tell you that having five twos or deuces is no guarantee for winning the game; especially if you have not posed. = It is how we play the hand that we have been dealt that matters most. F J S is certainly not good at political dominoes.
    Destroy the middle class and you will kill your own Double Six.


  18. Austin and his fellow BLP yardfowls on the blog are really the manifestation of the old Bajan saying “the higher the monkey climb, the more he show he tail”.
    A total waste of space – They will need to make more space at the Sewerage plant just now Austin, if you keep producing this crap at such a furious space.
    Bajans are not as stupid as the BLP yardfowls hope they are. Come again!


  19. The BLP lackeys like Austin say that they are tired hearing about the “Global recession”.
    Therefore the intelligent thing would be to look at other tourism dependent economies like Barbados and see how these economies are doing:
    Jamaica, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, Antigua – all in IMF programmes…..hmmmmmmm – Let us try the Bahamas: – negative growth in 2008 , 2009 and virtually no growth in 2010 …..hmmmmm- It must be only coincidence- It certainly cannot be that imaginary global recession.
    We should have known that the DLP was responsible for all these economies because surely the “imaginary global recession” could not be the reason!
    So let us have an urgent election in all of these countries because if only Jamaica, St. Kitts, St. Lucia, Antigua, The Bahamas could get rid of the DLP , then all their economies would see the magical influx of tourists and growth that they are all looking for!


  20. The BLP propaganda will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled by it.
    They want to compare a tourism dependent economy like Barbados during a time when the source markets are growing to a time when those same markets are in recession.
    Austin reasons that this”global recession” should only affect tourism. Boy the BLP monkey really exposing he tail!
    NEWSFLASH – Tourism drives the Barbados economy and without the tourism spending, there will be a drag on economic growth and recovery.
    NEWSFLASH – The BLP does not have any secret tourists waiting for an election to come to Barbados.
    People do not be fooled – The BLP knows this but they beleive that there are people out there gullible enough to believe them. I am not, Are You?


  21. The BLP has so neglected the folks of St. George South and now have the audacity to ask those same people for votes. Owen Arthur gave Louis Tull virtually no roadworks for 14 years- The people of St. George south will not forget the way how the BLP neglected them. Shame on Owen Arthur.


  22. The international funding agencies want the DLP to start sending home public sector workers – the DLP government has said NO WAY!. It is better to make adjustments during times of economic growth- When Sir Courtney Blackman said that he alerted the BLP in 2001 to stop packing the public service, his warnings were ignored.
    The stacking of the public service for political favour was encouraged by the BLP culminating with the political appointment vote catching stunt just before the last election. Owen Arthur always did what was in the short term political interest and he is trying to use that playbook again this year.He will fool only those who allow themselves to be fooled.


  23. ‘OSA is a total let down in this area and should be made to walk the plank’
    It is obvious that the Global Recession would have some negative impact on the economy of Barbados but it is clear too that the policies of the DLP would also have contributed to our present difficulties.By now it should be clear for all to see that management of the barbados economy is a skilled undertaking which requires a skilled manager to cut and contrive. Rather than seek to learn,they employed political slogans like “Barbados is not only an economy but a society”to mask their economic management shortcomings , they poohpohed the discipline of economic management and ostracised their best practitioners like pro fesor alleyne early in their term particularly when he was praised by Mr Arthur in a budget reply for his advice. It would have been in times like these that the skills of Mr mascoll would have been a blessing but he too was unceremoniously sacrificed on the altar ofpolitical expediency.Except for the IMF imposed medium fiscal strategy, there has been no innovative effort to deal with the circumstances. Rather it has been blame, blame, blame. As much as i hate to agree with overly partisan commentators like ole onions, our fiscal deficit has been exacerbated through profligate spending of what we do not have to live a political lie so to speak. i hope that commonsense prevails sooner rather than later because i would like the boys to get another term.
    yes, they have given OSA an oppositionist wicket to bat on but unfortunately he can see no further than the political mileage to be gained. i hope that the economy turns around so that he and his gang of five can warm the opposition benches for another five years and fresh faces appear on the horizon.

  24. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ !
    By now it should be clear for all to see that management of the barbados economy is a skilled undertaking which requires a skilled manager to cut and contrive.
    snip……………..>
    they poohpohed the discipline of economic management and ostracised their best practitioners like pro fesor alleyne early in their term particularly when he was praised by Mr Arthur in a budget reply for his advice. It would have been in times like these that the skills of Mr mascoll would have been a blessing
    snip………………..>
    AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
    snip…………………..>
    Except for the IMF imposed medium fiscal strategy, there has been no innovative effort to deal with the circumstances. Rather it has been blame, blame, blame. As much as i hate to agree with overly partisan commentators like ole onions, our fiscal deficit has been exacerbated through profligate spending of what we do not have to live a political lie so to speak.
    THANK YOU …………..balance…….sometimes one needs to be overly partisan for love of a country that meansdone so much to ME…..


  25. Both the DLP and the BLP must be removed from the parliament of this country in six (6) years time.

    They demonstrate no vision, no clarity of profound political thought no consistency of progressive political action whatsoever.

    They do not have the perspicacity nor political will to move this country forwards upwards and onwards, just flipping backwards.

    They are two failed idiotic parties that MUST GO.

    Barbados is moving fast towards becoming a banana republic within the next 10 to 15 years.

    And the only real and significant real hope is for the average man and woman in the countryt to help get the rid of these old backward parties and replace them with the right ones.

    The thing to realize is that to get the rid of DLP/BLP problems in this country is to PERMANENTLY remove them from the political landscape of this country.

    PDC

  26. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Why this PDC man don’t give it a REST doa ?…anybody cud tell me?

    Boss…..read my lips…..nabody don’t vote for a third party bout hay….especially when it got in only ONE MAN …cheezon !

  27. Observing (and waiting) Avatar
    Observing (and waiting)

    @!
    As in another thread where u only half answered, what has the government done to a) improve the debt service ratio, b) decrease expenditure generally and c) prepare the economy for growth? While you’re at it, bajans have been forced (not asked) to sacrifice and “suffer” a lot….how will our sacrifice make our lot better in the medium term? What “thanks” can we expect??


  28. Have not read anywhere the PDC asking for a vote for self. In fact the PDC has never fielded a slate of candidates which would have given them the opportunity to command majority seats. Let us view the PDC like the PEP, political pressure groups.

  29. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Ok I get it …THE DESTABILIZING FACTOR..in short …..a fly (move)

    This country already destabilize PVC man…….you don’t see we under IMF measures……why you want to destabilize it further…..quizzes me….all for a rise of a future party in 14 years (PDC) ?…just don’t make sense again….anybody cud explain the rationale to me ?

  30. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    its one thing to hear the DLP and BLP people on this blog sound off on these matters. what is most telling is that you hear Mascoll and Arthur on the say matters but you can’t/don’t hear anyone from the government’s side defending their policies.

    they come and tell you this is what it is going to be and that is it. nothing more. case in point, persons have been questioning if the VAT will go back down to 15%. i have read all kinds of comments saying it will not, its a guessing game but the people who could say have not, as yet.

    ! you could come and say whatever you feel like but at the end of day most bajans feel this group of person are incompetent. it not just a BLP supporter thing but of course you could all feel free to believe that, your time for telling will come soon.

  31. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Observing (and waiting)
    While you’re at it, bajans have been forced (not asked) to sacrifice and “suffer” a lot….how will our sacrifice make our lot better in the medium term? What “thanks” can we expect??
    ***************************************
    What thanks you can expect Observing ?…….Observing,..you (we) have been answered already….didn’t you go to the meeting @ Springer Mem.School?….”we have nothing to apologize for “….. so we can take it or leave it…or X -it or keep it…..lol


  32. You BLP people, Clyde Mascol and Owen Arthur are two failed economists who were in charge of Barbados economy in time of plenty and they failed to restructure the economy. Now they want it restructured by the DLP knowing that restructuring will cause some pain and Barbadians have a low tolerance level for pain and will turn to someone else who promise relief from the pain.

    You brag that they were responsible for the best economy and the amount of foreign exchange they left; therefore you must accept that they also fail to restructure the economy from the high dependency on tourism, FDI and off shore business. They just borrowed a lot of the Ponzi schemes money and hoarded it for a rainy day. The fact is that the money has to be paid back You must accept that government is a continuum and every January the 30 million US dollars of that borrowed foreign exchange is used to pay for the Prison, conceptualized by the great economists.

    The DLP always have to make the hard decisions that make people feel some pain and then come along the BLP to live large.

    Mr. Stuart, I can see your government trying very hard behind the scenes to get us out of this trouble by making the ministries very conservative in their spending. Do not mind people like onions and miller. You have proven the doom and gloomers wrong. If we have to crash then let the great magicians have the government to make the hard decisions of sending home public workers like in UK, Spain Greece and US.
    Owen Arthur has never in his time as PM taken a hard decision that would have made this country a better country.

  33. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Clone
    Man restructuring what….like you is the only body nowadays who ain’t realize that the man lost his way ! What you call destroying the Middle Class and.enduring endless pain.. a walk in the park ?.Ludicrous…even from a Clone like you.
    All you all offering is a bunch of excuses..(about global economies)….and doing nothings for the workers of AX and Clico pensioners….but quick to ask the people to endure MORE PAIN..? I sure not even you believe yourself…tell DEM to sell the BMW’s and Jaguars and Audi’s first …then someone may consider your draconian measure with more seriousness, if at all. By the way PEOPLE saying,,,” they can’t wait..enuff is enuff..”quote

  34. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    If we have to crash then let the great magicians have the government to make the hard decisions of sending home public workers like in UK, Spain Greece and US.
    **********************
    You said it…the real intentions…after Fuc%ing up D place…..bunch of nauseating jokers…..know it would come out…..but remember Sandi…not easily forgotten….


  35. @ Clone
    I never knew sending home public servants in the UK was a hard decision. As far as I know, that decision was based on political ideology more so than fiscal necessity and was quite easy for the Conservative government, which is known to be anti-public service.


  36. Speaking for “myself” and my experiences with the public service like many bajans …. we have public servants that honestly do a very poor job that either need retraining or released from duty (Dr.Suckoo is a good example) ….”protecting under-performancers appears to be the longstanding MO of the DLP”

  37. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    “Mr. Stuart, I can see your government trying very hard behind the scenes to get us out of this trouble by making the ministries very conservative in their spending.”

    how do you people really sit down and type so much crap? the only minister of government that is talking is Dennis Kellman. i got to give it to him, good or bad he is talking. so please, please explain what is the trying hard you see Clone. i don’t mean to come across as if i knocking the government but i trying hard like you say they are, to see your point.


  38. @clone
    You realise that not one of the BLP yardfowls on the blog got the guts to engage the economic argument. They are telling Bajans that the global recession is imaginary and it is not the cause of the sluggish economy.
    Therefore, they should have the “balls” to tell the people of Barbados on what occasion, there was massive recession in our source markets and the Barbados economy was thriving. I am observing (and waiting).
    SNIP
    Owen Arthur never accomplished that in 14 years. The growth in the BLP years “coincidentally” occured with growth in the UK and US economy .hmmmmm – The growth and economic management that the BLP talks about was not driven by Tourism and international business but by some economic messiah,right?.stupse!
    SNIP
    Maybe, just maybe there could be some relation. All the talk about skilled economic managers – joke. Clyde Mascoll has no respect or admiration for anyone in the BLP but Clyde’s ego will prevent him from publicly admitting the truth even though he spent most of his political life saying that.
    SNIP
    I repeat the BLP does not own any big oil wells to flood Barbados with cheap oil and lower electricity bills.The BLP does not have any thousands of tourists out there waiting for an election like some bloggers.
    Get real and stop fooling yourselves and the public. There is no magic wand silver bullet solution or Prime Minister out there.Get Real.


  39. clone dont/even engage the blp clowns with there one issue TOPIC CLICO and the mighty OSA tagging along with them. Every political ,rally it is the same ole sh..t CLICO talk and nothing new to say about how he going to RESTORE the economy. When was the last time OSA ran a country in a global recession. OSA has become a bag of hot air fullyinflated and an ego twice the size. all that OSA has said so far is all the electorate gonna hear and that is a lot of crap.


  40. @balance
    The respected Professor Frank Alleyne who was chairman of the Council Of Economic Advisors was on a Brass Tacks programme in 2011 and clearly brought a refreshing and realistic presence to the debate.
    Unfortunately, the public seems to have to endure the same columnists and moderators over and over and over and over in this debate.
    Thankfully, the professor’s talents are still being utilised in service of our great country.He calls it like it is unlike some others whose economics varies with their politics.


  41. Onion
    All you do is talk bare ……..You never get involved in serious debate. This is an educated world my friend and no ………talker like you will get me confuse.

    Mr Enuff most of you are like that, just find a dotish counter argument.
    .

    The point was that the big countries in the world have been taking harsh measures to keep their economies afloat.

    Only this weekend in the Saturday Sun a story spoke about Barbados being ranked sixth in the world for densest network of roads per land mass and in the top 50 for car ownership. This is a 2012 special publication by the Economist.

    It is through the taxes that you paid over the years that we have this dense network of road. Not a bad statistic BUT

    You can praise your great economist for the vision that he wants to see a car in every garage THAT HAS PUT THIS COUNTRY IN A MESS WITH HIS CHAMPAGNE TASTE AND MAUBY POCKET MENTALITY. The far reaching effects are more foreign exchange required to buy the cars. More foreign exchange to buy the petrol and all the parts for repair. More pollution and more money for hospital care for lung diseases.


  42. The BLP propaganda continues in its effort to mislead Barbadians. Barbados and the tourism dependent economies of the Caribbean are pushing on against an extremely strong headwind.
    I commend this government for maintaing public sector jobs, diversifying our tourism product and source markets, strengthening our social safety net and maintaining the investment and commitment to education and developing our human resources.
    Regionally and internationally,consumers are feeling the effects of higher fuel cost but then again the BLP propaganda wants you to beleive that you must blame the government for that. I say again the BLP will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled.
    If the government had “reduced recurring expenditure” by sending home thousands of public servants, the same BLP yardfowls would be on this blog saying that they put poor people on the breadline.

    If the BLP feels that the government should send home public sector workers, they should just say so- but then again the BLP in 2012 / 2013 is about nuff lies , spin and so little specifics.
    The BLP will fool those who allow themselves to be fooled.

  43. old onion bags Avatar

    @ Clone
    You are the epitome of a DLP mouth piece……to keep people down..Only the Hartley’s and the Sickners and the Estwicks are to drive BMW’s and Jags right ?Only this evening a hard working hairdresser remarked to me..”Ya know what, whenever this party comes to power, we does have NO MONEY !…And she is right.Somehow by some remarkable feat of nincom-nomics, the DLP ‘s legacy is always one of hurting the middle class and further suppressing poor people.
    Onions don’t waste time debating economic with you lot, as facts speak for themselves.You broke back montana boys never fall short of discrediting yourselves.When it isn’t comments…..”like it or lump it”, or “not getting ulcers, or losing night sleep”…you always find a way to put your foot in your owns mouth with stupid remarks like …”we have nothing to apologize for.”..a sure admit of guilt and arrogance. Who could debate with such high charge burlesque ionizing the air ? You all are comics from the start and comics to end, and this elections will be no different…stick with Global Economies…see how far that gets you come elections. More importantly, continue to finger the CLICO pensioners and piss off the AX teachers….knowing you all ..it ain’t no big ting.
    Look I going and watch prison break…..

  44. David (not BU) Avatar
    David (not BU)

    some people just got them head in the sand and once your head in the sand you ass exposed. FYI an election is coming and if you guys feel the country will fall for your BS, your asses going to sore the day after election.

    “clone dont/even engage the blp clowns with there one issue TOPIC CLICO and the mighty OSA tagging along with them.” – this comment here says alot.


  45. Hi just testing. My last post got swallowed …


  46. Here goes again … First effort at posting this did not succeed.

    Two nights ago David Weekes the IT Entrepeneur who charged Caricom officials of violating his intellectual rights in the period leading up to the 2007 World Cup, was asleep when two bomhs exploded on his neighbour’s lawn. His case was on BU a couple of times the last one being
    http://bajan.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/a-request-for-copies-of-the-instruments-of-ratification-caricom/
    Now these were not the usual Molotov cocktails but butane containers with ignition devices attached to them. And his neighbor resides overseas for most of the year but just happened to be in Barbados to witness this event.

    The police were called of course and their response was that it was probably the work of errant school children.

    I post this information here, my usual forum, to establish as publicly as I can the real threat that people who challenge authortity feel (face?) when they explore all of the legal avenues that are available to them and are frustrated by the possibility of being stalled indefinitely. This story will not end well. I am afraid for David Weekes.

    ….


  47. david weekes


  48. @BAFBFP

    Wow, heard an extract on VOB. This is heavy duty stuff.

    Perhaps you can do a summary of his position and the incident to more widely publicize.

  49. An Observer.. Avatar

    @ Observing ( and Listening ) April 2 , 2012 at 11: 22 AM
    ” Notice too Arthur sounding the CLICO bells again as a matter of immediate national interest which he is willing to adopt a bipartisan approach to ..Tactician again .. genuine ? Maybe not ..Opportunistic ? hell yes . Government on the back foot as we speak ? Definately ” .
    This is a very incisive posting .However , when all is taken into consideration , Mr Arthur’s stand may be justifiably regarded as DISINGENUOUS for a number of reasons .
    1. He cannot escape the fact that the reversal of the cease and desist order of 2006 which the Supervisor of Insurances issued against CLICO and was subsequently reversed could ONLY HAVE BEEN REVERSED ON THE ORDER OF THE MINISTER OF FINANCE . The Minister of Finance at the time was Arthur . A bipartisan approach to finding a solution would necessarily remove the glare of the lights focusing ON THAT PERIOD ; the present approach has been to make the public believe that the CLICO problem is exclusively the fault of the present government .
    2. Arthur’s call for a debate in Parliament AT THIS TIME is surprising . Arthur must know that CLICO has challenged the decision of the SOI by a Court action now under the name of the Financial Services Commission . Indeed, Only recently a High Court judge granted a stay of proceedings instituted in the Magistrates court against the Company until the substantive action is determined in the High Court . This being the case THE CLICO MATTER IS SUB JUDICE . How then can there be a parliamentary debate of this matter when it is sub judice ? Mr Arthur must know that that request cannot be satisfied AT THIS TIME . Certainly Parliament does not wish to be regarded or held as being contemptuous of a COURT ORDER .
    In light of the foregoing , I cannot see Mr Arthur’s call at this time as other than DISINGENUOUS even though opportunistic . I should like to hear from you and ..Peace my friend.


  50. David

    Thnx. I will and will forward same to you asap

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