Submitted by Yardbroom
Crime Stats Canada

By way of introduction I offer you one view of a psychological perspective on why people commit crime; it is not a definitive one by any means but it is certainly worthy of some consideration.  “Every human behaviour is done to serve a certain important psychological goal including the crimes people commit.  What seems irrational from the outside like crime is actually an attempt to do something completely rational like reaching a certain psychological goal.

For example if a child felt inferior during his childhood then there is a big possibility that he will strive for superiority as an adult.  Now what if that child didn’t manage to achieve his goal using the normal ways such as academic or financial success?  At this point he might decide to become superior by being dangerous or in other words by becoming a criminal.”

If we accept that psychological factors, during human development influence behaviour.  We could then look for other elements, in this instance unemployment.

In research conducted by Naci Mocan at Louisiana State University, “who studied state-level unemployment, and crime data, property crimes showed a link to employment, while murder and rape had little connection if any.  Its not just in the US.  A study a decade ago in New Zealand found a significant link between “dishonesty” offences – a category including theft, burglary and fraud – and unemployment but no parallel link with violent crimes like murder, though rape did show some association”.

People do not live in a vacuum they interact with the world around them.  The nature of that interaction is often determined by social class, the neighbourhood in which they live  and the finance at their disposal.

In a paper on Social Class Youth Crime and Justice, Rob White and Chris Cunneen advanced the view that in a “wage-based economy, subsistence is largely contingent upon securing paid employment.  If this is not available, then a number of social problems are are often invoked, including and especially crime.”

If we accept that unemployment is a factor in the committing of crime, what should be society’s response.

It has been said that long custodial sentences are necessary to show the criminal their behaviour cannot be tolerated by society.  Others excuse criminal behaviour by saying they – the criminals – are unemployed and it is the Government’s fault for not finding paid suitable employment for the unemployed.  Another position is that rehabilitation is needed as sending people to prison – at tax payers expense – will not solve society’s problems.

Can society gain by excusing criminal behaviour, if it is due to unemployment?  If that view is taken the criminal can always say, I did it because I was unemployed.  Even in cases when he/she made no effort to find paid employment.  It also poses the question does “honesty” have any relevance in society, or is it something to be discarded at one’s convenience?

High crime rates also exposes the weak, vulnerable and aged to  disproportionate attacks.  On meagre resources they are unable to protect themselves.  The rich are more able by environment and security arrangements to protect their property, when those situations fail, there is always insurance.

In recent years Barbados has experienced a plethora of house burglaries, gas station robberies and praedial larceny.  With many small farmers thinking of giving of their livelihood because of theft.  I have not even mentioned the opportunist robbery of gold jewellery.

Unemployment is not a new phenomenon in Barbados.  Our great grand fathers went to help build (1880-1914) the Panama Canal.  Then there were those who travelled to America to harvest crops, later some went to England to work for The National Health Service and London Transport, and so it has been for many years.

Is it time to see crime in a different light. It is not only the victim’s problem, it is society’s and it cannot be solved by giving ready made excuses to thieves and robbers.  We must see crime for what it is.  A cancer determinedly eating away at the heart of our society.  Unless it is checked our society will not be worthy of the name “society”.

This view does not preclude compassion for those who are genuinely out of work, or excuse Government’s responsibility to the unemployed.  Neither does it seek to discard the tools of rehabilitation for those who seek it after custody.  However, the Courts, and Police aided by a supportive public can cut out most of the cancer before our small society  is overwhelmed.   We should see the problem for what it is and not allow it to flourish by default.

Acknowledgement Ref: M. Farouk Radnan

28 responses to “Crime Punishment And Employment In Barbados”


  1. The critical question is why is the individual unemployed? Is the person lazy, suffering poor attitude or a victim of poor Govt policy on education and work placement? Here in Ontario Govt policy permits inefficiency by encouraging youngsters to enter University instead of incentivising youth, who are NOT Uni material, to go to technical/ trade College. A large percentage graduate with a degree for which there is little demand, with high debt loads, and then have to go to College to learn something for which there is demand. POINTLESS!

    Bim’s politicians must develop superior policy regarding education aimed at the correct careers for the various levels of ability. They must also have avenues for employment and migration if necessary. Strong ties to organisations worldwide that require people. They must work with innovative managements worldwide to secure jobs in Bim and certainly NOT allow fiascos like Intel exiting Bim years ago with major job losses. Bim should NOT TAX Intl Corps at all! JOBS and only JOBS lead to a firm foundation for a settled society!

    Social class, neighborhood etc should NOT matter. Right and wrong should be clear to almost all people. I played in a major village in Bim ( in the 60s/70s) with some disadvantaged peeps and yet some of the poorest made good legitimately while some of the better off peeps failed miserably.WHY? Negative disposition! I have them in my family. Some just want to phoop bout, not work, etc. Plain and simple! My cousin’s maid had 11 kids and no husband BUT everyone made it to at least middle management? WHY? She was a no nonsense DISCIPLINARIAN!

    Society must never permit criminals to think it is alright to steal, mug etc. Peeps should be encouraged to seek help from those with experience eg one youngster asked my brother for help with a business idea which eventually became a top brand of bottled products in Bim! This chap had asked his Dad for $$$ and his Dad had told him to seek a good business idea and work hard.


  2. @Yardbroom

    If we accept that unemployment is a factor in the committing of crime, what should be society’s response.

    The above quote is apt and one when we need to come to terms with as a society. Too often we hive off this responsibility to the police.


  3. The graph clearly indicates that when people are occupied/employed they do not get up to mischief.

    “The devil finds work for idle hands”.

    So … I agree …. how do we find occupation, if not employment for people and keep them busy?

    Does occupation equate with paid employment?

    Unfortunately, sometimes not, but it serves a critical purpose.

    Soldiers fight and pay with their lives on the front lines in a war. That is the image we associate with war.

    ….. but there is a cadre of individuals who cook for them who may never fire a gun and we never consider when we think of war.

    http://www.englishclub.com/ref/esl/Sayings/Quizzes/Patience/They_also_serve_who_only_stand_and_wait_911.htm


  4. Accepted as fact:
    So what is the critical point of trade off of when to….. stop hiring people and an acceptable crime level statistic?


  5. @Yardbroom
    “The above quote is apt and one when we need to come to terms with as a society. Too often we hive off this responsibility to the police.”

    The maxim that you should not take the law into your own hands has not been balanced with the legal position that a citizen can make an arrest. The latter has not developed at all.

    However, there is a more in the mortar than the pestle. Citizens worldwide have been encouraged to give up their security to higher authorities or influences. Hence, there is no more community security but there is also no food security and as a result there is no health security and no nutrition security as well.

    The solution is reaching back to the point where there is general security in the sense that citizens embrace their country as their own and not leave critical security issues and solutions to politicians and police.

    What happened to, “you can’t come in my community and rob anybody.” Or, “this is my country, it can’t happen here.” Instead, it is a blind eye with the less than comforting thought, “The police will deal with that.” Or, “that is for the Minister or ministry to deal with.”

    So it is not that this is hived off to the Police, that is how we are taught to think. The police themselves go to great lengths to keep people out of their investigations but yet seek the public’s cooperation. The two do not add up.


  6. @Yardbroom,
    This article is a very good attempt to address social/economic issues in a way that most have come to dismiss. Given the level of data and knowledge I give you 100% (not taking away any marks for grammar) for content. It requires a lot more research to really connect the rest of the dots.

    Many social activists and community leaders have been accused of making excuses for criminal behaviour, but it is because they sense the societal problems and logically deduce that the society is as much responsible for the criminal behaviour as the criminal-self. However, in the absence of this kind of data it can only end up with two sides drawing the line.

    Two things I would like to contribute here in terms of one who has thought through this for many years:
    1. The premise that man is evil by nature allows crime to prevail. Put another way, if what the article above purports is true, then we have to start with the premise that man is good by nature, otherwise it can’t work. Note I did not say perfect by nature.

    2. Meaningful mechanisms for citizens participation in the governance of their country must be established. The lack of these is evidence of poor leadership and certainly is not “good governance”.


  7. There is one more thing Yardie, as raised by Moneybrain but not inconsistent with my first point above. We have to stop calling people criminals. What’s in a name? Many people live up to their names and labels. This does nothing to help the situation as much as it helps to compound, complicate and encourage criminal activity. This type of labelling is discrimination because these so-called criminals are people and one of the first things you have to do with these fellas in terms of reform is to stop them from thinking of themselves as criminals.


  8. […] Barbados Underground thinks that “it is time to see crime in a different light. It is not only the victim’s problem, it is society’s and it cannot be solved by giving ready made excuses to thieves and robbers.” Tweet Barbados Underground thinks that “it is time to see crime in a different light. It is not only the victim’s problem, it is society’s and it cannot be solved by giving ready made excuses to thieves and robbers.” […]


  9. ROK | January 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM | There is one more thing Yardie, as raised by Moneybrain but not inconsistent with my first point above. We have to stop calling people criminals. What’s in a name? Many people live up to their names and labels.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Being facetious but perhaps they should henceforth be known as “Aspiring Politicians”


  10. @ David January 22, at 12:12 pm
    ” if we accept that unemployment is a factor in the committing of crime, what should be society’s response”

    Of course if unemployment could be eradicated that would on the surface solve the problem, but there are economic reasons why full employment can sometimes cause other issues. However, if it can be reduced so that those “seeking” employment can be employed we would be almost there.

    I will now turn to society of which the Police are a part. There is evidence that gangs stop tourists telling them public roads are closed and then demand a fee for so doing. The Police could do “sting operations” with hire cars, the requisite “H” number plates and suitable passengers for the purpose, and nab these gangs. That does not need high science or sophisticated electronic equipment. These are simple things that can easily be done, what we have now give a perception of “lawlessness” in Barbados. On a small island to have “High-way men” in the 21st Century…it is a joke.

    @ Rok
    Will respond later I am a little pushed for time.


  11. Hi Rok
    “Labelling young people as criminals”.

    I am aware of the “descriptive” aspect of labelling and it not being intrinsic to the person, but the act and its consequences will be the same. However, for the purpose of this blog I am comfortable with any name chosen.

    Society
    The society we had in Barbados – I will not say it was perfect or even near perfect – is no more and will not return. Over time Barbados’ society developed with the influential being mixed with the poor, within that mix examples were given in manners, ways of conducting ones self and up-liftment through education and honest employment. The poor who emulated that style were often called “poor great”. It had nothing to do with white people or foreigners, it was the way of middle class blacks..

    However, over time the middle class have moved to the terraces–not a bad thing for themselves and that cannot be criticised. Resulting in the cement that bound the society together being eroded.

    We now have young people in a state of drift, everyone for him/her self accusing politicians, the rich and some public servants of being less than honest. The immediate dollar matters, tomorrow is always far away hence no provision for it is made….the State owes me and my children, the result of any casual relationship.

    “Citizen’s Arrest”
    Citizen’s arrest is rather complicated and you can be charged with many things one being kidnap.
    The Law provides general powers that allow any person to make a citizen’s arrest under certain circumstances – including if they witness an arrestable offence. However, there are many legal issues which make it a rather complex matter, with grey areas. “Personally” I would not go there, others can make their own decision.


  12. @Yardbroom: “If we accept that unemployment is a factor in the committing of crime, what should be society’s response.

    What if we don’t accept that premise? Or, at least, do not accept it is the sole reason for crime?

    Might the perception that the “Big Ups” get away with crime influence society?

    (As an aside, I note that your above graph does not have the X nor Y axis defined.)


  13. @Chris

    The graph is generic and is not material. It was used by BU for symbolic purposes only.


  14. @BU.David: “The graph is generic and is not material. It was used by BU for symbolic purposes only.

    So you pulled a graph out of your ass and added it to this blog submission to scare the readers.

    A shame. Are you BBC? ABC? NSBC? CNN?

    @Let me tell you… We’ve already been here. Done that.

    Go away. (Although I do note a remarkable ‘bot presence on key words.)


  15. @Chris

    Why don’t you make a suggestion?

    There is no need to make this a production.


  16. All the criminals in here want locking to KFC up!

    And no BONES about it!

    Chickens like brooms gine get swept out the pen….as we just heard from PM.

    Morale: Criminals come in all makes colors and assizes.

    (neva take onions serious especially whn ee drinks.)


  17. @BU.David: “Why don’t you make a suggestion?

    How about something like hard data. Oh, right… You don’t have hard data.

    BTW, I’m still awaiting Yardbroom’s response to my questions.


  18. @Pull D. Trigga: “You own what you write, for ever, Mr. Halsall.

    Very comfortable doing so.

    (Said to an Anonymous Coward.)


  19. TO THE PRIME MINISTER

    YOU GOT IT RIGHT…….THIS TIME YOU GOT IT RIGHT.


  20. Hi Christopher Halsall,
    January 23, 2012 at 3:17pm
    Quote:” Yardbroom if we accept that unemployment is a factor in the committing of crime, what should be society’s response”

    What if we don’t accept that premise? or at least, do not accept it is the sole reason for crime”

    Chris if you do not accept that premise. Then I refer you to my original Blog…This is not definitive ….”Every human behaviour is done to serve a certain important psychological goal including the crimes people commit. What seems irrational from the outside like crime is actually an attempt to do something completely rational like reaching a certain psychological goal.”

    You also asked: “”Might the perception that Big Ups” get away with crime influence society?

    I refer you to my response to ROK:
    January 23, 2012 at 3:06

    “We now have young people in a state of drift, everyone for him/her self accusing the politicians, the rich and some public servants of being less than honest.”
    __________________

    Chris, I am sure you have “answers” of your own, I would be delighted if you could share them.


  21. @Yardbroom…

    Thank you for your response.

    However, your original Blog entry contains two “If we accept…” statements, which are presuppositions at best.

    There are many other possibilities….


  22. @Yardbroom,
    “The poor who emulated that style were often called “poor great”. It had nothing to do with white people or foreigners, it was the way of middle class blacks.”

    Come on Yardie, you saying that the culture developed by the middle class was totally uninfluenced by the Master mentality? One good thing you said is that it eroded the fabric of community life, but basically, moving into the terraces is one way to ensure you don’t have to share and help bring along the rest of your community. An act that is passively contributory to crime in the sense that the community moved away from interdependence to the apparent independence of the rising middle class. You can’t imagine the damage this has caused, especially to the elderly.

    On citizens arrest, I totally disagree about the complexities you seek to attribute. As a matter of fact, these unsupported generalisations are more a means of deterring the citizen from exercising a fundamental right of security. The only problem with it is that this right is never discussed in the society and hence there is very little knowledge about it. This is something that should be explained (even in schools) and general knowledge about citizens arrests should be greater.

    If you would step back a little and take a look at the positives, then there would be less crime. If you take the responsibility of your own security and place it exclusively in somebody else’s hands then you looking for trouble.

    More important is that, if this is the way you look at it, and in the absence of some prescription from you about what the citizen can do, then you should retract your statement that matters are being “hived off” to the police.


  23. The level of conspicuous racism BU has attracted has gone way beyond what is apparent in this society. Of course, we have not yet learned how the racists behave so we have difficulty identifying it as racism. All I can say is that I have not seen this level of racism since my first year at Lodge School. The year after that we got independence and sent all those intimidators and persecutors of black people, into the closet. Now that they have found an internet cloak, they are bringing on their true character, which none of them would dare display in public.

    All they can talk about is “pull the trigger”. Note that this is how they think. Violence. These racists come on here and laugh at all of us and we sit and say nothing and David allows them in to persecute his own readers. When are we going to wake up? Go to BFP and try doing it to them.


  24. @ROK

    To clarify, there is a commenter responsible for the comments to which you refer who is obviously up to mischief.

    You should note those comments have been deleted.


  25. My apologies if they have been deleted, but I got them in my inbox.


  26. @ROK

    The comments can only be deleted when they are posted, you have email notification activated therefore will see them before they are be deleted.


  27. While we at it. How about white collar crime. All dem big corporations that the government barbados talk about running after for not paying their taxes . how about them or should they be given a pass , BTW these companies don;t discriminate when it comes to stealing and to think they all have jobs.


  28. Hi Rok,
    January 23, 2012 at 8:02
    Quote: “@ Yardbroom the poor who emulated that style were often called “poor great”. It had nothing to do with white people or foreigners, it was the way of middle class blacks”.
    ————————————
    “Come on Yardie, you saying that the culture developed by the middle class was totally uninfluenced by the Master Mentality?”

    No Rok, I am not saying it was “totally uninfluenced,” because behaviours are influenced by many factors, interactions and observations among them. Given the society we had, it would have been impossible for blacks not to be influenced to some degree…..but “totally” that is a different matter.

    I meant those behaviours were not to be seen, as being copied from white people and foreigners.

    I am with you in the interdependence of society being eroded by a desire for personal independence and separation from the mixed society. It is also true that has had an effect on our caring for the aged.

    I will not linger on the Citizen’s Arrest aspect, that is a personal decision for the individual to make. However, he/she must be prepared to defend any action brought against them at – his/her own expense….I will let that rest.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Hi Chris Halsall,
    January 23, 2012 at 7:50 pm
    Quote: “There are many possibilities.”

    Of course there are, you will no doubt name a few and discard my misplaced presuppositions.
    It is not enough to retort with two or three lines posing questions but not providing any answers. If you hold views – and I am sure you do – express them.

Leave a Reply to old onion bagsCancel reply

Trending

Discover more from Barbados Underground

Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive.

Continue reading