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Members Of Parliament Or Judases? Clear Yourselves!

All Members of Parliament are styled “Honourable”; however, the reported behaviour of the eleven that were featured in the Nation, as attempting to oust the Prime Minister, is anything other than honourable. I do not want to see them hiding behind semantics: I want them to come out, like the Honourable Denis Kellman, and say…

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By Caswell Franklyn, Head of Unity Workers Union

All Members of Parliament are styled “Honourable”; however, the reported behaviour of the eleven that were featured in the Nation, as attempting to oust the Prime Minister, is anything other than honourable. I do not want to see them hiding behind semantics: I want them to come out, like the Honourable Denis Kellman, and say unequivocally that I had no part to play in this sordid mess so help me God. If they fail to publicly disassociate themselves from this reported act of treachery, they would forever stand condemn, in my mind as being worse than Judas.

I am not saying that there should never be any disagreement among party leaders and their fellow Members of Parliament. I am making bold to say that everyone of the persons that are reported to be associated with this bloodless coup attempt look extremely bad in my eyes right now. I heard is said once that anytime two people sit and always agree at least one is an idiot, so I would expect that there would be disagreement in any group of twenty-one people. However, the way that the dissent is handled speak volumes about the character of those involved, and quite frankly, their characters have taken a bashing by the force of category five public opinion.

I have heard the denials from persons who have taken the point that they did not place their signatures on any document. I dare say that is not good enough for the public: it might be good enough for a court of law, but the court of public opinion where you are guilty until proven innocent does not follow any legal rules. Politicians must always remember that they are not elected by the courts, and could very well achieve a pyrrhic victory there. Those who are denying any association with the document must realise that it is more than the document. They must come out and disavow any knowledge of the alleged clandestine move to oust Freundel Stuart. I believe that all right thinking persons in this country expect no less. The country does not want to hear any legal double speak: we want to hear an unambiguous statement to the effect that the story has no basis in fact. Failing that they would have signalled to their constituents that they are unsuited for the confidence that has been reposed in them.

The Barbadian public is very forgiving, even in the short term, of most things but I don’t think that such forgiveness extends to treachery. If you have any doubt cast your minds back to Clyde Mascoll’s crossing the floor. He is perceived as a traitor to the DLP: no one appears to trust him anymore, and now needs Owen Arthur to clear the way for his rehabilitation. He is a trained economist but, as part of his punishment for the perception of treachery, his economic pronouncements are now called into question. I believe he is sound but remember the court of public opinion still prefers Barabbas.

Now finally to Freundel Stuart, I can only sympathise with you. I cannot say that I know how you feel because I never had friends like yours.

175 responses to “Members Of Parliament Or Judases? Clear Yourselves!”

  1. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Quoting Caswell Franklyn “If they fail to publicly disassociate themselves from this reported act of treachery”

    Treason can only be committed against the state.

    THE PRIME MINISTER IS NOT THE STATE.

    Why don’t you stop trying to fool the people?

    The Prime MInister is merely first among equals.

  2. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Adrian

    Don’t make me laugh ! Why you slaughtering George! Metamucil! LOL.and how about that incurable diarreah of the mouth.

  3. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @random Thoughts

    You have just succeeded in defining the word “treachery” as “treason”. Wow! You are brilliant!

  4. Watching Avatar
    Watching

    If only four members of parliament signed the letter shouldnt we to assume that
    it one of them who leaked the letter? Or was there consenus to leak it to the Nation ?

  5. ac Avatar
    ac

    @ George

    I see that you are becoming creative in attacking my initials there are mine you know but with the BLP always something Sinister.

  6. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    I am wondering if the peopl who wrote this letter went to school in BArbado and if so did they pass the GRE O’level or CXC English language exam?

    I am wondering also since the Prime MInister meets with his Cabinet weekly could they just say the PM’s face “we would like to meet with you, would Saturday at 4 o’clock work for you?

  7. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    I am wondering if the peopl who wrote this letter went to school in Barbados and if so did they pass the GRE O’level or CXC English language exam?

    I am wondering also since the Prime MInister meets with his Cabinet weekly could they just say the PM’s face “we would like to meet with you, would Saturday afternoon at 4 o’clock be a good time?

  8. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Quoting George C. Brathwaite | December 16, 2011 at 11:37 PM | “random Thoughts “Wow! You are brilliant!”

    Thanks George.

  9. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Disagreeing witht the Prime MInister is no different than disagreeing with anybody else.

    There is nothing treacherous or treasonable about it.

    No Prime MInister should want or expect a bunch of yes men (or women)

  10. ac Avatar
    ac

    @Random thoughts

    don’t pay any attention to george at this point he is spinning his wheels and frustrated becaue “THE LETTER did not have the impact he was looking for except to those with “evil eyes”
    Btw what happen to the gang of fourBLP operatives who was on parole on BU when the letter came out. i guess they went to refuel/

  11. Surprised Avatar
    Surprised

    If Roy Morris scooped Kaynmar Jordan’s scoop and that’s the authentic letter then its a letdown after the palace coup overtones portrayed by the Nation, in fact the Ministers suing have conrete reasons to sue.. The letter is full of respect, deference even reverence for the Prime Minister. The Nation took Barbadians on a wild and unecessary journey to a point where we believed our beloved island had become a cesspool of political plotting like Guyana, Trinidad even Haiti. The Nation has a case to answer and a case they could lose. Writing a letter of that tone to a PM is not uncommon nor is it treachery although it wouldve been preferable they discuss such matters at cabinet or the various DLP parliamentary and council meetings. The Nation get huff we’ll see if the lawsuits come. The Nation better have good lawyers because right now its Earth to Houston the Nationpace ship has a problem.

  12. Brief Avatar
    Brief

    @George Brathwaite:

    Is this similar to the plot in the BLP to remove Mia?

    I read in an earlier post ‘request to meet is not plot to destabilize or remove the head.’ I believe this regardless of how a team word its document. However, GB you are confident that there was a ‘plot’ I am confident that the polls by Wickham caused some to panic and desired an urgent meeting. I am also confident that the group knew the PM having worked with him for over a year and know that he does not respond to ‘urgent’ unless he deems it urgent.

    When Jesus was asked to hurry to Lazarus he took His cool time and when he got there His friend was dead. He confidently said ‘I am the resurrection and the life …’

    PM Stuart is not Jesus but I believe that He has read this scripture and is guided thereby. He is the Prime Minister steadfast, real and poised to respond to adversity, joy, thrill, destruction, apparent destabilization, disgruntled public, colleagues, friends and family. His style according to his principles and beliefs.

    This does not change the fact that there are members who feel rushed to do something because of pockets of public concern. Nor does it change the poor, misleading, misrepresentation, coyly approach of the Nation Publishing.

    I wondered if only the Nation could get their hands on the letter. I now wonder if they have a different letter than what the Barbados Today published. My only question is did the PM receive the letter? If he did not was this a draft awaiting approval by names that may be attached on a list?

    And George, another thing, an implication is not a fact – you have shared that – Kaymar has to bring facts that the eleven intended to destabilize the party by joining together including the then Acting PM to remove the PM as its leader. Not you George – Kaymar Jordan has to report to the public. Otherwise the Nation ain’ getting nutten fuh Xmas – john and jenny public are ‘Mad’ ’cause the Nation ain’ been nutten but ‘bad’ in its reporting.

  13. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @Brief

    If you want to fool yourself, that is fine with me. That so-called poll was done months ago, why was it leaked at this time? You guys also failed to recognise that Parliament went on recess; this morning the fist thing to be done was to outline the necessity for the urgent calling out of the MPs only to debate something that had no urgency written into it. The plan was foiled since Sunday and the motion to have Parliament meet was already in place. But I shall let all of you have the last word. Like you, I must wait until Sunday to see what comes about.

  14. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    Do you know, I was stupid enough to go back to Barbados Today and read the letter. Do you know what jumped out at me? The last paragraph is a cut and paste (reason why the wording and spacing no longer mesh). So maybe David is right and there are at least two pages. If so many invectives and subtle use of words and phrases are contained in the first couple of paragraphs, I am curious to know the full extent. There is more than what we have seen or heard, I am sure of it, but I am not sure how much of the facts and truth we will get.
    Did the faces in Parliament today seem a bit melancholy given the festive season of the year? Where was Chris’ usual exuberance and some say arrogance? The DEMS looked and sounded tired and overworked; I doubt they were doing the peoples’ business because things are just as hard as they were yesterday and the days before.

  15. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @BU and off topic.

    If as is reported in the news that natural gas usage has declined significantly over the years because many more Bajans are eating out, is it still feasible to be working on a pipeline between Barbados and Trinidad? Just curious.

  16. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    I know whose signature ent on dat letter….BONNY PEPPPA wun. BONNY WHERE ARE YOU? yuh comforting de PM?

    Dey say dat yuh gots tah play ded fuh yuh tah ketch cobeau….FS is smart ….(I hope)

  17. Brief Avatar
    Brief

    George:

    I read that letter and notice the first paragraph went straight to the intent and purpose of writing. I noticed the paragraph and looked long at the pinching-shears design at the top and bottom. I looked to verify the authenticity of the copy. I ask is there another letter? BT published copy ends with ‘Respectfully’ but signatories were not shown.

    Fine – I await the Nation’s story. Kaymar has to print facts not intention, implication, supposition, could be that, should be this. Also, an apology will not help her nor the Nation. A discussion to meet does not imply a letter to be prepared to meet.

  18. Brief Avatar
    Brief

    George:

    I agree Sinckler had no jokes for himself today and the others were not amused at all. I thought it was the seriousness of the Tax bill being discussed. Boy Chris looked heavy hearted – I agree with that. Is his family well? A man is still innocent until prove guilty. I like ‘you’ await proof.

  19. true to form Avatar
    true to form

    I hold no brief for the Nation but al the salacious talk has been the talk of the bloggers. The emotive words in this missive have been spoken by contributors to the posts. The Nation to its credit has not spun anything. It has laid out the letters in part and said the men were disgruntled. I believe that some people are so bold faced that they are capable of anything to suit their purposes and are trying to impute all the improper motives to a simple statement. We will publish on Sunday. Barbados Today should be ashamed of its conduct.The slipshod way in which both the interview and the cutting off of the persons names who signed shows that Barbados Today has no balls.The men who believe that they are off the hook are so simplistic. asnd are behaving like little boys. I think they have let themselves down and they have shown themnselves to be selfish and self centred. They believe that they can throw their colleagues to the wolves and benefit from that dastardly deed. But I say the truth will out and when their caolleagues confront them they would be no place to hide and no assanine excuse will be able to cover their tails. I am ashamed of them, They are unworthy of the term honourable. Think on these things

  20. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    Bajans you should keep track of how your power company is spending the profits.

    HALIFAX, Dec. 13, 2011 /CNW/ – Today, Halifax Regional Municipality approved Emera’s investment in the Halifax Skating Oval.

  21. Antz Avatar
    Antz

    Aint Barbados Today owned by Peter Harris and Bizzy Williams amd Roy Morris? So you still wondering if BT is part of the spin on this DLP story?

  22. David Avatar
    David

    To reiterate, what is happening with this story is serious business. Now the specter of collusion has raised its head. We have to dismiss this angle to the story because it would been the PM is aware and most people believe Stuart would never be party to such.

  23. Yardbroom Avatar
    Yardbroom

    As I wrote some time ago about this letter and the subtlety of The Nation’s article, who is the “Eager” one, that was in the sub-text of the Nation’s piece.

    Perhaps his name will be there – will he fall on his sword – that is the key to open this Pandora’s box, the Nation will not go down alone.

    However you slice it the DLP has been damaged was that the intention?

    Through it all “The Master Tactician” (Owen Arthur) quietly waits.

  24. balance Avatar
    balance

    mr franklyn i see nothing mischievous or clandestine with members of an organisation seeking by way of letter an audience with their leader about the way things are being done vand their impact on the success of the organisation unless in this case you are privy to other valid information which casts doubts on the motives of the concerned members,. the advocate printed a story and all and sundry including the purported concerned members themselves judging from mr stephen lashley’s rambling and nonswensical comment seem to take the issue out of context.

  25. balance Avatar
    balance

    ac the story published by the nation was not sinister in my humble view and i was further of the opinion that the nation should hang their heads in shame if indeed there was no lett which from all reports there seems to be. you were quite emphatic that there was no letter and the story was concoted for sinister ends which now appears to be a figment of your imagination. attack mt arthur all you want, i was better off when he was managing the purse strings. was drinking a rum in the shop last night and happened to hear your boy mr sinckler quarrelling as usual and saying a lot from which no sense can be gathered.

  26. enuff Avatar
    enuff

    It appears that on realising the Nation remained adamant about publishing the letter and became feisty even after denial by some MPs, the DLP thought it best to deflate the story as much as possible.
    The barbadostoday article is therefore an attempt by the DLP to preempt the Nation’s Sunday Sun story, and in so doing hopefully lessen its impact.
    The barbadostoday story however has, in my opinion, made the situation even worse. Why wait five days to admit a letter exists and be semantical about its contents?
    Unless I am an idiot, when the leadership of a country, especially within our Westminster system of government, is being questioned it is a direct attack on the performance of the Prime Minister. What is even more revealing is the fact that the words written in the letter have been often used by the Opposition primarily OSA to describe PM Stuart’s leadership. It is also interesting to note the word ‘leadership’ rather than ‘management’, which would have implicated the entire Cabinet including Minister Sinckler.
    Therefore a Cabinet minister trying to play word games with ‘our’ and ‘your’ is simply infantile and face saving. Again I ask why only eleven out of nineteen members of the Parliamentary Group were privy to this letter and agreed to its contents and intent?

  27. ac Avatar
    ac

    This story has run its course. All that is left are the smoldering timbers left to be effortless tossed and turn in the wind by by hit men within the BLP. THe public has seen a pure and unadulterated heavy handiness unleashed upon them by those in the media with the effervescent so called reporting of the facts. AS the days and weeks go by the attention would be focus on the evildoers those who would have submitted this letter to Nation one does not have to look too far for just around the corner their is an election and the LOSERS will do whatever it takes to win even if it means the destabilising of a country. let me add a word of caution to the zealots “Those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind”

  28. enuff Avatar
    enuff

    @ ac
    Is that why the DLP is now reaping the whirlwind?

  29. David Avatar
    David

    If some people are to be believed when the PM got knowledge of the request for a meeting he refused and met one one on instead.

    Remember Stuart is a student of history and philosophy as well as a deep thinker.

    By possibly taking a countermeasure with the assistance of the Press the cat might have been released among the pigeons.

    PM Stuart holds the upper hand and to bring closure there must be a little blood letting which will realign the perception Stuart is the man in charge heading into an election.

  30. ac Avatar
    ac

    balance you need to check your facts for Yes in deed i did say that there was a letter but not one of a Sinister Plot as suggested in the Nation Article! you can reread my comment which has been recently been edited on this thread.

  31. EAGLE-EYED. Avatar
    EAGLE-EYED.

    @TRUE TO FORM.
    ” All the salacious talk is the talk of the bloggers….”
    In case you do not understand it, let me point out to you that that is the purpose of dropping innuendo. The punch does not come from what you said but what you have led persons to believe that you said . Innuendo is a most powerful, yet DANGEROUS TOOL. If you were to go into any group of person NOW and ask what they think of the Nation articles, I am sure 99% would reply that the Nation has exposed the 11 DLP persons trying to get rid of Stuart.
    You should therefore look at the total narrative since the Nation’s expose’ started. As I understand it, that is the nature of the complaint made by Dr Estwick, Mr Ronald Jones and Mrs Thompson ..they are alleging that the Nation newspaper, through INNUENDO has implicated them in a sinister plot to get rid of / replace Prime Minister Stuart.
    That being the case, they are entitled to protect themelves against the innuendo; this whole saga is not about the innocuous letter appearing in Barbados Today but all that has been associated with it..the report of a meeting at Saffire Drive, the contemporaneous publication of a Wickham “poll”, the analysis of Dr George Belle reported by Timothy Slinger, the denials by various Parliamentarians, the analysis of Pro. Duncan….we will see how far it goes, as the Nation promises to take its efforts up to Sunday.
    I invite you to reflect on these things and try to see the trees from the forest; right now you are in danger of loosing your way; YOU MIGHT GET LOST.

  32. CASSIUS. Avatar
    CASSIUS.

    @ DAVID.
    Your analysis could not have been more incisive.

  33. Chuckles Avatar
    Chuckles

    My fellow bloggers
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  34. true to form Avatar
    true to form

    What to do with the men who signed? You know where you stand with them. You know your friends . It is your enemies who you have to take care of . I would dismiss all those who are saying not me I could not trust them. They are the backstabbers and would go into a clandestine meeting and if they are caught out would run. I could not and would not trust them. I would say to the ones who want me go and signed bring my successor to me and I would take a vote among all the members and if that person has lost the vote I would then dismiss all challenges Think on these things

  35. true to form Avatar
    true to form

    @Eagle eyed
    I want to assure you that I understnd the use and abuse of innuendo and I want to say words like plotters and traitors and such are not used by the newspaper. These words were used by us and when we colour our contributions with these nouns and adjective please do not blame the Nation .Eagle dont you think that the Nation interviewed asource and got the direct information from that source and that source was credible?
    Think on these things

  36. Observing Avatar
    Observing

    @David – 7:43
    precisely. Historian, philosopher, linguist, educator, thinker. Heads and shoulders above most in Barbados, probably the region. Not the most charismatic, nor “politically savvy” but as intelligent, thoughtful and precise as they come.

    The Barbados Today article was clearly purposely done to “ease” some of the pressure to come from the Nation tomorrow. The pigeons are scrambling since the now have a lot to lose and most things are out in the open. Some head(s) need to roll. A few questions to end…

    1. If 11 names were printed, but only four signed what does that infer, both about the signatories and and non-signatories? Why only 11 and not the entire Parliamentary or Cabinet group?

    2. If cabinet/MPs wanted to meet the PM, why a letter? Why the wording?

    3. If the PM never (supposedly) got the letter, where and for what “purpose” did the Nation get it beforehand? By the way, note that he was able to respond quite comfortably though not smoothly to the allegations at Friday’s press conference.

    4. If this disgruntlement started approx. 3 weeks ago, who’s really the master puppeteer here.

    5. Why haven’t we heard word one from the “alleged go between and letter deliverer” for the group?

    Lastly, methinks Stephen Lashely and Chris Sinckler have the worst responses to the issue so far. .

    As one man said “time longer than twine.”

  37. EAGLE-EYED. Avatar
    EAGLE-EYED.

    @TRUE TO FORM.
    You are still missing the point..they did not use the words, BUT THE NARRATIVE HAS BEEN SKILLFULLY USED TO GET THE READERS and listeners TO USE THOSE WORDS. An innuendo is successful when this happens..You must look beyond the superficial. Innuendo does NOT deal with the superficial. THINK ON THESE THINGS..

  38. David Avatar
    David

  39. qw Avatar
    qw

    Has anyone heard or Carson Cadogan lately? I truly hope he is not ill.

  40. EAGLE-EYED. Avatar
    EAGLE-EYED.

    @ DAVID.
    You have done your good turn for the day..I know for a fact that our Prime Minister has made a deep study of that little red book “The Prince”. That is another reason why i consider your earlier post so incisive. The days ahead will demonstrate once and for all how shrewd a person Prime Minister Stuart is . In actual fact, that same shrewdness which has caused him to ditch Hartley Henry and Wickham might very well be the reason for this flare-up we are experiencing.
    If I were to have the opportunity to advise Mr Sinckler, I would try to get him to consider that he would derive infinitely greater benefit from sitting at the feet of a scholar like Freundel Stuart than to dwell in the ungodly tents of a Hartley Henry or a Peter Wickham. Even though I doubt the opportunity for offering such advice will ever arise, I hope one of his close allies would make the suggestion to him. He would however have to clothe himself in the ROBE OF HUMILITY to derive any such benefit.

  41. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @David

    As a student of politics, I can only tell you that to be Machiavellian does not necessarily mean that you employ the type of politics that are grounded in manipulation for personal gain. Machiavelli spoke quite a bit about virtue and its importance; he spoke about having balance and effectiveness. Perhaps, these are the things that Stuart ought to employ rather than the other choice of the sword because as we know, if one lives by the sword, they too are likely to meet their fate by the sword.

  42. EAGLE-EYED. Avatar
    EAGLE-EYED.

    @ GEORGE BRATHWAITE.
    The word which best describes Mr Stuart appears in my post above – “SHREWD”. Shrewdness allows him to weigh the consequences of apparent conflicting actions. Why do you think he has studiously refrained from jumping-into the fray at the drop of every hat ? Some of you have misunderstood that quality ;you have jumped ahead and called THOUGHTFULNESS ,indecisiveness . Add to that the qualities referred to by The LOWDOWN in yesterday’s Nation.”.QUIET DIGNITY and DECENCY” and you should AT LEAST start to appreciate how fortunate Barbados is, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME, to have a Prime Minister like Freundel Stuart.

  43. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @Eagle-eyed

    I do not for one second underestimate FS. In fact, I believe that he has already acted in a way that has the group very very uncertain and are more likely to fall into line at least for the time being. No underestimation on my part.

  44. David Avatar
    David

    It would be unwise for PM Stuart to act with haste in this matter.

    He will wait for the NATION (Kaymar Jordan) to declare her hand.

    He will adjudge the impact.

    All the while the process of waiting will sieve out the issues which he must respond to.

    Bear in mind his response must take onboard the fact an election is on the horizon.

    A dark horse in this matter when the dust settles is Richard Sealy.

  45. EAGLE-EYED. Avatar
    EAGLE-EYED.

    @GEORGE BRATHWAITE.
    You drew David’s attention to the fact that you are a student of political science and hence are well qualified to analyse Machiavelli. May I suggest that a fuller appreciation of Machiavelli requires a grounding in Literature ; Stuart possesses that grounding
    I however did not think you were underestimating him; you are too intelligent a person to be guilty of any such aberration.

  46. enuff Avatar
    enuff

    @ David
    And Richard Sealy is part of the DLP royalty. Imagine him, and the two Depeiza siblings.

  47. David Avatar
    David

    It is difficult to imagine a DLP leadership without Stuart playing a leadership role given the current stock.

    There is no government in the world with the exception of a few which are not struggling in the uncertain times.

    The DLP whipper snappers should think on these things.

  48. David Avatar
    David

    @enuff

    The PM has to play the hand he was dealt.

    Many of the DLP MPs are Thompson appointees, Sealy appears to be quietly pragmatic if not as flamboyant.

  49. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @Eagle-eyed

    I truly find BU to be a place wherein persons have the intimate details of another. Nonetheless, I have no more right than you or anyone else to assess the merits or demerits of Machiavelli. I have read The Prince (a few times), and I have read Discourses (at least twice). I am not however an expert on Machiavelli nor would I claim to be.
    In terms of grasping the fuller appreciation, may I ask what is my background in literature? May I ask what do I NOT possess that Stuart possesses in being able to have the greater appreciation for Machiavelli? Maybe I am not a politician, is that it? Maybe I am not well read in several disciplines and subjects, do you think so?
    Anyway, I thank you though for perhaps giving me more kudos than you should and at least we agree that it is highly unlikely I would underestimate Stuart or most if not all persons of the political class.

  50. Oilman Avatar
    Oilman

    I share GB thoughts about the PM and firmly beleive it was the PM who had the letter pass to the Nation Newspaper. He will let the the majority of return to the fold very contrite and then he will deal with the ring leaders. This a a brillant move on the PM part.

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