Submitted by Green Monkey

Professional Engineers, civil Engineers, structural Engineers,  mechanical engineers,  fire protection engineers,  chemical engineers, a metallurgical engineer, an electrical engineer,  an ex-military combat engineer, architects, ex-firefighters, scientists (inlcuding mathementaticians, chemists and physicists) explain why the National Institute of Sceince and Technology (NIST) explanation for the destruction of the 3 WTC towers on 9/11 solely as the result of the collision of the hijacked airliners and resulting office fires or, in the case of WTC 7, just office fires alone, is a coverup.

These enigneers, scientists and academics believe that sinces the bulk of the evidence from the WTC site was shipped out before it was subject to a forensic examination; since NIST ignored multiple reports by first responders, news reporters and others witnesses of explosions and flashes of light at the time of (or just prior to) the collapses;  since NIST did not follow established procedure as laid out in regulations to test for incendiaries at sites of building destructions where molten steel or molten concrete is found ( both were found at the WTC after 9/11); since NIST ignored the evidence of the minute iron spheres in the WTC dust (evidence of much higher temperatures than can be caused by office fires or burning jet fuel); and since NIST final explanations  of the way the buildings fell are clearly  in contravention of some very fundamental laws of physics, their investigaion is invalid.  They believe the NIST reports must be rejected and a new investigation, independent of government,  completed which will look at all the available evidence and take into full account the laws of physics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ (2hr 15min)


  1. A pity Micro Mock Engineer has not put in an appearance here.

    It was interesting to listen to a few of the experts on the video refer to the fact that the airplane fuel could not have generated the heat needed to melt iron in the building under the crash to create the free fall witnessed in WTC B7.

    Then there is one expert who claimed to have found sulfur residue on molten steel after the fall..

    Just too many questions which need to be answered.


  2. @Straight Talk

    So what if you consider me stupid? What the hell are the “provable facts” surrounding the Towers collapse anyway? Are they provable because they support a particular theory? What about the facts which prove that two planes loaded with jet fuel crashing into two skyscrapers are likely to destroy them? Within minutes of the Towers falling someone was claiming it was an inside job; that Jewish employees were told to stay away from work etc.

    What read up? You are free to believe in whatever you want to believe, I choose to go in a different direction.

    Why don’t you bring your superior brain knowledge to the fore? The WTC was man made; any man made object can be destroyed. Show me a man made object that cannot be destroyed.

    Why is it that some people are so convinced that they are right about a particular subject that they attack any person with a different viewpoint by insulting their intelligence?.

    “Hoisted by your own petard”, why don’t you look in the mirror?


  3. Sarge seriously, look at the videos, at least the first one. It is two hours long but worth it. I read a couple book reviews on the book that you identified and I wont insult you by passing judgement in public. Watch the videos. My aunt died in those buildings, she was an Antiguan night auditor. Man do it for her nah ..! (Dimitri Khalezov gives the most complete scenario of the possible reason for the free fall, but that is another tale)


  4. @BAFBFP

    I am sorry that you lost a relative at WTC but many others also lost relatives, however the Central theme of the post by Conspiracy aficionados is that the US Gov’t was responsible for the destruction of the Towers. That suggestion is pure unadulterated nonsense, what is true is that the personnel from the various US agencies responsible for the country’s security missed many important clues which could have prevented the attack.

    There are many videos and articles which will show that the Towers fell as a result of the impact and subsequent fire resulting from the crash but it is not my role to try to dissuade you from whatever you want to believe. The bottom line is that the people responsible for the security of the US (FBI/ NSC etc.) failed to share or interpret information as it came into their hands. That doesn’t mean that they planned and executed the destruction of the Towers it just means that they were unable to connect the dots.


  5. Here is a recent entry from his blog by US lawyer Kurt Haskell. He and his wife just happened to be passengers on Northwest Airlines Flt 253 at Christmas Dec 2009. This was the same flight the “underwear bomber” was on from Amsterdam to Detroit.

    Events Haskell witnessed prior to boarding (i.e. the underwear bomber being escorted around normal airport security procedures before boarding) and on that flight itself caused him to re-evaluate his trust in the US government.and the mainstream media.

    The Colossal Deceit Known As The Underwear Bomber Case
    by Kurt Haskell

    With jury selection set to begin in the Underwear Bomber Trial set to begin tomorrow, I’ve spent the evening reminiscing about Christmas Day 2009 and the 21 months since. The Underwear Bomber attack has fundamentally changed my life. Not in the way most would think, but it has destroyed any faith I’ve had in the U.S. Government, the media and this country as a whole. To say that I believe the government is corrupt and the media is complicit doesn’t fully explain my beliefs. Not only have I come to those conclusions, but I’ve witnessed that an ordinary person who sees something important can be silenced despite his efforts to spread the truth. Such is the Underwear Bomber case. I can do nothing but laugh at the TSA’s new policy of “If you see something say something.” That is exactly what I did, and not only did the U.S. Government not want to hear what I had to say, but it actively lied about it, attempted to get me to change my story, and hid, by withholding (secret government) evidence or putting a protective order on the evidence and nearly everything that would support my eyewitness account. (emphasis added /GM)

    Continued at:
    http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2011/09/colossal-deceit-known-as-underwear.html


  6. maybe people should step back look at big picture
    ignoring *harts and *sargents belief’s
    other theories may also not be unrelated in the big scheme of things such as subsequent dubious oil wars and financial crises caused by lending excess money regardless of due checks then selling it on bundled up into billions/millions


  7. * working deep deep deep on the underground

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    chocolate city hussle

    @Jimmy bishop. u are a perfect fool if, u choose to bury ur head in the sand. i don’t even have to look at those documentaries to know it was an inside job. ( i saw a number of them) but there is one video which spoke volumes, it was shown from different angles, it was slowed down: how can u explain the fact that the second plane explored just as its tip touched the building? why did it explode just as it entered? that alone told me that, it was planned well. not only that, u can clearly see an object on the belly of the plane, and it was this object that exploded: look up a programmed called In Plane Site.

  9. chocolate city hussle Avatar
    chocolate city hussle

    @Jimmy bishop. I meant, how can u explain the fact that the second plane exploded just as its tip touched the building? why did it explode just as it entered? that alone told me that, it was planned well. not only that, u can clearly see an object on the belly of the plane, and it was this object that exploded: look up a programme called In Plane Site


  10. if conspiracy under bush regime s/b exposed under incumbent,
    are they 2 heads of same beast or top secret

    dedicated to baf..whatever the spellin


  11. The 9/11 Commissioners and Other Officials Don’t Believe the Government

    The 9/11 Commissioners and congressional investigators into 9/11 themselves don’t believe the government’s description of events.

    Much of the world doesn’t believe the official story.

    Psychologists: Questioning 9/11 Is the Sane Thing To Do

    Many mental health professionals have concluded that the official version of 9/11 is false, and that those who believe the official version suffer from defense mechanisms. For example:

    Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Lester Grinspoon, MD

    Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD

    Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk

    Distinguished Professor in the Department of Mental Health Law and Policy, Professor of Medicine in the Department of Internal Medicine and Distinguished Professor of Global Health in the College of Public Health, University of South Florida, Michael D. Knox

    More at:
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/09/psychologists-mental-health-questioning-911-sane.html


  12. Look at what video anybody can manipulate a video to present their point of view.give me a break!So the planes flew into the building on the same day america planned to blew them up? which means that america an ALqaeda were in cahoots to kill all them Jews in the Towers. Now I am really confused. You guys need to explain the series of events leadsing up to 911. it is unbelievable. Take it awayBAF.


  13. @Green Monkey

    Read the story earlier today with great interest, now we have to give some credence to the concerns of the former 911 Commissioner.


  14. The 911commission found four failures by the USA government which led to the attack: Imagination, policy, capabilities, and management.
    As for the fires the NIST said that that the fireproofing on the steel infrastructure was blown off by the planes initial impact and had that not happened the buildings would have remained standing.


  15. @All.. Just wondering…

    Throw a lot of kinetic and thermal energy into a static structure which is not terribly stable.

    What happens?

    I reminds me of a cartoon by Gary Larson: “Bummer of a birthmark, Hal”. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gluv/298864264/


  16. I am lost Kiki


  17. Two planes smash into 2 buildings, fires burn for less than one hour, firemen on the scene call for 2 single lines of water to put out the fires, some people on the crash damaged floors make it out of the building and their are people that believe the fires were so fierce they could melt steel?

    Seismic recorders and eye witnesses in the towers report huge explosion 20 or 30 seconds before the impact of the planes on the buildings.

    In every other instance of a homicide, every possible shred of forensic evidence is gathered to ascertain the methods, yet they ship the materials from WTC off to China?

    People that believe the US government explanations are the conspiracy theorists as they believe that OBL conspired with others to pull off this hollywood classic.

    Oh yeah and within all this mayhem they were able to retrieve the leaders passport, no mention of any other passports. Amazing.

    Peace


  18. Check the BNY Failed Settlements Trades report* for 9/11

    (*) written by me


  19. Mathematician and Physics teacher David Chandler on “WTC 7: A Refutation of the Official Account”

    9/11 – The Toronto Hearings – 09/10/11 – David Chandler


  20. stupid george bush step backwards your days are numbered in office I know you are 666


  21. check the coup,


  22. 9/11 Theories: Expert vs. Expert, or Why can’t the experts get their stories straight?

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