Submitted by Yardbroom

It Is best being clear at the outset, to prevent unnecessary distraction and diversion into non-productive debates leading into cul-de-sacs.  There are people – of sober mind and disposition – who do not believe in the Bible and what it teaches.  Some boldly say they are not Christian.  Many others have no interest of any kind in Religion and even think it is not a force for good in the world.

This submission is not a vehicle to facilitate an argument to the above views, as I am aware logic “however” arrived at is limited in changing a belief system.  However, it is a fact that a major section of Barbados society is Christian or go to church regularly and have religious beliefs, even if tenuous.

“Protestant 63.4% (Anglican 28.3%, Pentecostal 18.7%, Methodist 5.1%. other 11.3%) Romam Catholic 4.2%, other Christian 7%, other 4.8%, none or unspecified 20.6%”

Source: Religious Statistics

You cannot change a society by “ignoring” the belief systems of a major section of that society, it is that which has led me to pose the question in this submission.

I have heard members of the church speak of Barbados society’s ills.  This week the “Archdeacon Eric Lynch of the “Anglican Church” made comments of people in society who were exhibiting unacceptable behaviour” (Nation News, September 06, 2011).

We need a concerted effort by all faith groups, rallying not only their flocks, but reaching out to the wider community as a force for good.  This proactive Army needs to lead by example, it is not enough just to say, but lead by what we do.  If a light shines on the untruthfulness you practice but do not preach – your case is undermined – who can believe in what you say.  The good exposition of a cause flounders when a light shines upon duplicitous practices.

Society is best served when actions are taken not simply because they are the tenets of Religion but because they are just and good in their own right, and lead to a better society.  Those of Christian and other religious beliefs can take up the mantle for good, not to state they are better than other groups but because no good will come from a vacuum.  When others say what they are against – or do not believe in – but will not take positive action to bring about change in the society of which they are a part, their contribution to that society can be questioned.

We need to have a serious conversation with the young people in Barbados, who have been led astray and let them know, if they have decided to go outside common decency and attack society; then they are on their own.  A “united society” will always defeat their selfish and destructive ambitions.

Society’s Religious leaders must first sacrifice self interest and positions of importance for the common good.  All naked selfish ambitions must be subsumed, that calls for a structured approach when people of all faiths through their leaders come together.  Law enforcement agencies could have an input but there must be an Army of people whose authority has already been given through the organisations they represent.

It could be – and some will say absolutely necessary – that others with no religious affiliation should be included, for the objective is a better society which is not solely defined by Religious people but by what we as individuals contribute to the whole and how our individual actions impacts on it.

In any organisation or collection of people there will be the nay-sayers, some snipe from the sidelines, they will say this faith, or its leaders have a bad record in Y, this faith was very involved in the slave trade, this faith X seeks separation from others and so on but they never say what their philosophy offers and how it will be achieved….leave the nay-sayers to their fate and we do the business of importance.

It is also folly to say all is well when it clearly is not, if a problem has been identified, there is a need to solve it, other ideas maybe better and worthy of note, but to do nothing and exist in a state of drift with no positive action, is not an option that will lead to a better society in Barbados.


  1. @ David….

    True to what you said and I will go a bit further….

    “Perhaps what is missing is our [society] failure to fire a spirit of entrepreneurship in our people.

    It should not be the youths can’t find work but how are they driven to create work for themselves.”

    IMHO, it starts in the schools.

    When I entered CCFS (Foundation) in ’82, I did French, Spanish, Latin, Geography, Maths, History English, Home Ec, Science, Physics, Music, Technical Drawing, Wood or Metal work (you had a choice) and a class called Guidance. This was 1st form.
    Of all these classes, Guidance with Ms.Fenty was the most important to me. We were taught life, what it was all about, about sex, menstrual cycles (boys and girls), teenage pregnancy and career paths.

    Coming to the end of 2nd form, the Guidance teacher would ask what was our career choices, if we had decided what we wanted to be in life.
    We then chose the 3rd form we wanted as this was the beginning of our careers. So we would discus and she would help us by looking st our strengths based on our subjects.

    Eventually we were sent to these classes from 3rd form.
    Science, Language, Business and Technical. Needless to say, Techie was in 3 Technical. You remained there until the end and the classes were structured accordingly. I went on to do TD, Metal work ( I can Braze weld, arc weld and mig weld), Maths, English etc….the core studies of an upcoming technician. I wished IT was there but that came after.

    I said all that to say this, many of the youth I meet on the block, have no idea where they want to go in life. they have no focus, no desire, just a bunch of certificates from CXC .
    It is the same at UWI….people spending 3 years on a History degree, what would you do with that other than teach or work in the museum?
    Lots of them there are loss too as a degree to most is like a brand name.
    I will get stick for this but I find that the students from the islands are much more focused when it comes to UWI, maybe because it is a one shot and expensive for them.

    More needs to be done in the schools to get the youth focused. I doubt there is a Guidance class anymore but I heard the MoE speak about some cleric being introduced to help or something like that.
    If at 14 and you have no idea of what you want to be, in this fast paced world you will be lost and hence the block.


  2. I don’t agree that we should replace the church with a new system. The police are corrupt and canot be trusted in regulating the drug gangs that are being formed.

    Regardless of the fact that many people on BU want to kill God, the fact is that the CHurch has always been a progressive force for good and healthy change rather than the reverse. Let us empower the Church to hold the rest of the society to doing the right thing.

    Balance, am i incorrect?


  3. Hi Technician
    September 10, 2011 @ 10:37am
    I was interested in reading what you wrote, if it is that young people in Barbados are not being given proper career guidance.
    In my experience – through years spent overseas – students are asked why they are taking certain subjects. To prevent a hoge spoge of subjects being taken which might not get them in the best universities or aid their prospects of work. Consideration is also given to work opportunities in the chosen career eg demand.

    Their abilities are matched with their career choices and the route to work, either as an employee, or employer.

    The student then has a structured programme, with clearly defined aims and objectives and what he or she needs to do to achieve by way of exams and study.
    This blueprint can be modified as events unfold but there is “structure” and young people know what is expected of them.


  4. Why would you look to the society to fire a spirit of entrepreneurship in our youth and at the same time begrudge the passing on of wisdom, rules of life and a career path fron parents to children?

    One position completely contradicts the other.

    Do you think our children are foolish and cant see thru the hypocritical charade?


  5. If I want, I can leave here and go at the 90 odd year old woman who used to work with my family and hear more wisdom and get more confirmation in my beliefs than I can by going to a university educated person who society believes knows it all.

    She probably never passed primary school and worked all her life as a labourer on a plantation before coming to work with us.

    She and my mother became sisters.

    I can recall a person now long dead, who could not read or write, who had a great impact on my life from the time I was a boy.

    I still see his Trumpeter cigarettes and purse on top of my fridge, the same ones he gave to my mother for safe keeping the day he collapsed.

    Unfortunately for him, and for us, he never escaped the influence of alcohol and it finally killed him just before he reached his three score and ten.

    Our society is in the trouble it is in because the systems which worked for generations were discarded in favour of rubbish, foisted on us by people who never had a clue what they were doing.


  6. This blueprint can be modified as events unfold but there is “structure” and young people know what is expected of them

    @ Yardbroom…..

    That was the way we came up. From 3rd form we had an idea of what we wanted to do in life, all of us did not follow it to the letter ( I would be making lots more doing mig welding or salvage diving now) but as you said correctly, the blue print was easily modified because there was a structure in place.

    We seem to think that everyone must be an academic (more TBs..lol) and this is what has the youth ‘chasing ghosts’ as many will spend 5 years in a failing exercise.
    There need to be a way to develop the skills of the youth and point them in the direction where they can get the best results based on their interests and qualifications…….it has to start from young!!


  7. @ John….

    In all fairness though, you can’t just hold on to the wisdom of the old people as gospel for the world we live in now, can you?
    Would you go using a poultice in 2011?….or still talk about ‘a lining cold’?…..what if you had ‘stricture’?

    There is always going to be development and changes in life, that’s the nature of the beast. I do agree with you that….’Our society is in the trouble it is in because the systems which worked for generations were discarded in favour of rubbish, foisted on us by people who never had a clue what they were doing.’

    The change was somewhat drastic and more like an about turn in some cases.
    Maybe we should have slowed the development and tempered it with a lot more of those old time morals.


  8. @Technician

    Agree with you to a point but in the 80s is when an old way of Bajan life started to transform; we encountered a fork in the road.

    Yes there was guidance from the school to assist in streaming based on abilities etc but the difference then compared to now was that there was a nexus between the school and the household when delivering education and the ‘manners maketh man approach’.

    There was a healthy respect for teacher and recommendations/decisions to be taken affecting the children.

    In cases where parents felt incompetent to make certain decisions the teachers/school was able to act as surrogate.

    The above is the micro part of the problem, the macro has to do with a declining irrelevant education system which has become masterful at generating paper trophies but where is the commensurate conversion to GDP?


  9. Technician | September 10, 2011 at 12:41 PM | @ John….

    In all fairness though, you can’t just hold on to the wisdom of the old people as gospel for the world we live in now, can you?
    Would you go using a poultice in 2011?….or still talk about ‘a lining cold’?…..what if you had ‘stricture’?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wisdom vs medicine!!

    Of course I acknowledge advances in medicine as for the good … if you are physically sick as you describe.

    But medicine won’t get you through life when you are physically well but something in your mind is troubling you despite the claims of drug companies, psychiatrists …. and psycho analysts!!.

    …. but wisdom will.

    I thank God for my health every time I watch an ad for medicine in America on TV.

    By law, all the known side effects have to be included so the ads come across to me as ….” this mecicine is good for you , but it is known to kill others”!!

    …. and still it sells!!


  10. David | September 10, 2011 at 1:18 PM | @Technician

    Agree with you to a point but in the 80s is when an old way of Bajan life started to transform; we encountered a fork in the road.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I can tell you it started from when I went to school, 20 years earlier!!!

    If you found an irrelevant education system in the 1980’s all I can say it was made so faster than I imagined!!

    Whatever education system existed prior to the 60’s when I went to school produced BS&T, Plantations Ltd., Cotton Factory, The Barbados Foundry, The Barbados Mutual, now Sagicor etc. etc. which all made or make a contribution to the economy.

    …. oddly enough when the Church held sway!!

    I could rest my case right here!!!!!

    … but I am sure I will have more to add!!


  11. Whatever education system existed prior to the 60′s when I went to school produced BS&T, Plantations Ltd., Cotton Factory, The Barbados Foundry, The Barbados Mutual, now Sagicor etc. etc. which all made or make a contribution to the economy.

    And who were the owners of these companies? This had nothing to do with the education system, these was businessmen who saw an opportunity to control the wealth. They created a monopoly that still exists to today which to a large part remained segregated.


  12. like it our not the block replaceing the church, its time to stop looking at the block as the worst thing ever and start looking for ways to empower them.


  13. islandgal246 | September 10, 2011 at 4:14 PM |

    … but you would agree the businessmen of the day who created these long lasting companies also were at one time boys … who went to school … and were educated in whatever system existed then.

    It would be great if you could point to similar companies which appeared after the 60’s which contribute to the economy as these ones mention do, or did, but I don’t think you can.

    So, unless you can come up with similar companies, what do you think would be a logical conclusion?

    When you get there, consider why the companies that were around for 60+ years like Plantations Ltd., Cotton Factory, Barbados Foundry etc failed.

    You will find they all have one thing in common. They failed after the 60’s!!

    You draw your conclusions from these facts, and others which may be pertinent!!


  14. I would recommend to any aspiring entrepreneur starting from scratch to visit the public library and read the book on Goddard Enterprises in the reference section.

    It will show you some of the qualities of perseverence and foresight that are mandatory …. and the importance of family in your business.


  15. John…”.but you would agree the businessmen of the day who created these long lasting companies also were at one time boys … who went to school … and were educated in whatever system existed then.”

    John the Education system then favoured these people. They were the ones who HAD the MONEY so they were the ones who opened up BUSINESSES and kept them SEGREGATED to THIS DAY!

    “When you get there, consider why the companies that were around for 60+ years like Plantations Ltd., Cotton Factory, Barbados Foundry etc failed.”

    The business climate changed many were unable to adapt so many closed their doors.

  16. BSC Ecology with Earth Sciences Avatar
    BSC Ecology with Earth Sciences

    A Call To Arms: Should The Church Play A “Bigger” Part In Influencing Barbados’ Society

    Before this happens the church must unify and we all know that that isn’t going to happen. Too much denominations; what would be the chance of someone choosing the right one?


  17. @ John,

    I can only repeat the words of a (Black) Barbadian bank manager speaking (in 2011) on business and other matters: “In Barbados, it’s best to be White rather than bright!”


  18. For John and others:

    ” Race and Class, Success and Failure in Barbadian Business; the case of James Alsop Lynch and Company Limited” by Dr. Patricia Stafford

    http://www.cavehill.uwi.edu/mainlibrary/fhe/histphil/HistoryForum/papers/JamesA.Lynch.pdf


  19. “To conclude, James Alsop Lynch was a brilliant businessman for a number of reasons. He learnt business skills by observing how his father and grandfather ran business;”

    My goodness goodnes me … I am not imagining things!!

    Lord haveth mercy.


  20. Thx Ping Pong


  21. The Church and its dirty past.

    “The Church of England has voted to apologise to the descendants of victims of the slave trade…..

    During an emotional meeting of the Church’s governing body in London, Rev Blessant explained the involvement of the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts in the slave trade.

    The organisation owned the Codrington Plantation in Barbados, where slaves had the word “society” branded on their backs with a red-hot iron, he said.

    “We were directly responsible for what happened”
    Rev Simon Bessant.

    He added that when the emancipation of slaves took place in 1833, compensation was paid not to the slaves but to their owners.

    In one case, he said the Bishop of Exeter and three colleagues were paid nearly £13,000 in compensation for 665 slaves.

    He said: “We were directly responsible for what happened. In the sense of inheriting our history, we can say we owned slaves, we branded slaves, that is why I believe we must actually recognise our history and offer an apology.”

    The synod passed a motion acknowledging the “dehumanising and shameful” consequences of slavery.”

    BBC NEWS Wednesday, 8 February 2006, 18:47 GMT.


  22. The Church has lost credibility .


  23. Catholic Church in crisis.


  24. VoB’s talk show tomorrow will be about the role of the Church in Barbados.


  25. Demons in the Church.

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