Submitted by Charles Knighton

 

Wayne Forde, Land Tax Commissioner

It is a shame Mr. Sanka Price “CRUEL crying out for relief” June 29th Nation, penned his comment before the Land Tax Department of the Ministry of Finance & Planning posted this year’s “Notice of Valuation”. Government seems utterly determined to undermine its citizen’s discretionary spending  which supports the entrepreneurial classes Mr. Price mentioned in order to support a bloated, inefficient bureaucracy which is rapidly becoming rapacious.

The only difference from last year’s valuation to this year’s is that both I as well as my home are one year more decrepit. Considering that, as well as the current economic malaise I found myself bemused to note an almost THIRTY PERCENT increase in the “improved value” of my property. My wife commented that as far as contemplated renovations were concerned we may have to either postpone or cancel, as now ” another shoe has fallen”.  In agreeing, I noted that since the current government came to power shoes have been falling as salt from a shaker, and they bruise when they hit.

Should government continue their confiscatory policies in an effort to sustain the unsustainable, they may expect a Pyrrhic victory.


  1. the Scout wrote “it now seems like a penalty to own a property in this country,”

    Yes there is a penalty but it is up to the Government to ensure that poor and middle class Barbadians are not unduly punished for property ownership.
    The COWs of this world might start grazing on distressed and foreclosure grass.

    Property Tax reform should be a hot topic in the next election.


  2. It has reached the point where I must admit, I’m renting my house from the government, even though I built and maintains it. When I divide my property taxes paid by twelve, the money paid per month to live in by own house is tantamount to a rental fee. What has happen is a communist system where everything is owned by the State

  3. Charles Knighton Avatar
    Charles Knighton

    While anyone is free to refer to me as naive, I have never been of the opinion that people don’t like paying taxes. Studies have repeatedly demonstrated that individuals who deem their taxes as fair and reasonable, and who perceive their taxes resulting in positive tangible benefits, feel it to be their patriotic duty to do so. Correspondingly, there is also a much smaller number attempting tax evasion. However, governments PERCEIVED to be plagued by inefficiency, cronyism , misfeasance or malfeasance garner no such patriotic fervor.

    Today in Barbados there are now approximately 34,000 public sector employees accomplishing the work of 18,000. When one attempts to deal with public sector personnel only to be met with indifference or outright incivility, from OUR civil servants (rapidly becoming oxymoronic) the thought of paying their salaries rankles. The terribly expensive and underutilized (though one can create a nice echo) Supreme Court edifice, as well as the terribly expensive and never utilized Greenland Landfill stick in one’s craw. The poor state of roads and other infrastructure appalls. Dilapidated structures and overgrown property everywhere the eye can see. There is more but enough of the picture has been painted.

    All of these examples in one of the most highly taxed jurisdictions in the world, and yet government seeks more. People are not balking at taxes per se, only the perceived waste of government.


  4. Independent responds to Christopher:
    Whereas the Land Tax value was $1.000.000.00
    I did have an offer for $695.000.00.

    Independent
    The fact of the matter is that most Barbadians are not in the real Estate business. The buying and selling of homes is more speculative than anything else.It is more for those who have some money to play with. The real estate market will give a better return on investment than putting money on the bank at 2 to 3 %.

    When a parent is forced to sell a plot of land which was bought with the intention of passing it on to his child or children, and the land tax becomes the significant burden that it has become, then I would suggest that our past value system is under threat.
    To suggest to me that I should sell the property for the one million dollars (if there was someone willing to pay that much), and pocket the money, one

    would also be saying to me “let the children fend for themselves”.


  5. Property ownership should be the foundation for building wealth in a family.

    I can state for a fact that I know one person who kept his property until he died because he decided that he would leave it for his children.
    It was not the best decision because he died property rich but cash poor and a living standard not as good as it should have been.

    Barbados claims to have accomplished a lot since the colonial days and Government must be careful not to put people’s properties to pasture for the COWs and vultures to graze on.

  6. Straight talk Avatar

    @Independent:
    Did you misread my post?

    I certainly did not and would not suggest selling your land.

    With a Land Tax Valuation of $1m, I assume you have land in excess of 100,000sq.ft.

    My suggestion was to team up with a developer who you trust, build enough houses for your children’s needs, and others for resale to fund the whole project.

    That way your children get a house not raw land, you get a much reduced Land Tax bill, and some cash in the bank.


  7. The thing is, I wonder if these high valuations, inadvertently serve to avoid a catastrophe for the mortgage business?

    Does the Central Bank have available mortgage figures showing how much is in negative equity, as happened in the US?

    Such figures are freely available in the US, not here?
    How many in Barbados borrowed and borrowed based on the expected gravy train of real estate…now to find themselves owing?

    Of course, with high land tax valuations, there should not be many in negative equity…no? 😉

    The banks and mortgage companies must be praising the high tax valuations. Avoids write-offs.

    There is always a reason in Barbados.


  8. In anything, when the answer or most logical answers seem ludicrous, look for the real reason…….


  9. Oh and one last thing. CLICO balance sheet must be looking a bit better with revaluations…no?

    RFLMAO 😉


  10. @Caswell Franklyn | July 1, 2011 at 12:25 PM |
    “In Barbados, no tax is charged on land valued up to $150,000; thereafter a rate of 0.10% is charged on the excess up to $400,000; anything over that is charged at a rate of 0.45% up to $1million; in excess of a million the rate is 0.75%.”

    I need your help there…my land is valued@$115,000, I’ve been paying $690,00 bds for the last 5 years! I have been had!?!!!
    What should I do? (genuine question)


  11. @GG

    All unimproved land is taxed at 0.6% of the value. Check the
    following Website which will help you and others understand how
    you are being taxed.

    http://www.landtax.gov.bb/Rates.html


  12. @Chuckles. Thanks for your help!


  13. Independent responds to Christopher:
    Whereas the Land Tax value was $1.000.000.00
    I did have an offer for $695.000.00.

    Independent
    Response to Straight Talk
    Thanks for the clarification. It’s 31,000 sq ft with 1,500 sq ft of house.
    The land is not 100,000 sq.ft.

    would also be saying to me “let the children fend for themselves”.


  14. @GG
    What about planting some cherry , mango, pomegranate, lime, lemon
    and any other fruit trees available from the Greenland Agricultural Station?
    The best time to do it would be now the rain is falling . I suppose I can add yam and cassava. You wouldn’t have to pay one cent for water and you might qualify for a tax reduction until you are ready to build on the land .


  15. @Chuckles
    Never thought of that! will do…thanks

  16. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    My valuation has gone up by 20% or $85,000 for an ordinary suburban house.

    Like the writer of this article the only thing that has changed is that “both I as well as my home are one year more decrepit

    I am scared to get the tax demand notice.

    This is nothing but a tax grab by the government

  17. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Also received a huge valuation increase for a piece of agricultural land in zone one which land tax describes as “vacant – land residential”. Only this year the Chief Town Planner refused permission to develop or subdivide this land.

    So doesn’t Land Tax talk to the Chief Town Planner?

    Isn’t the Minister responsible for Town Planning the same as the Minister responsible for Land Tax.

    I think it is high time that the Minister have a conversation with himself.

  18. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    Quoting “Sargeant | June 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM |
    Since most respondents are anonymous can anyone state the actual amount that they paid in land taxes e.g. last year?”

    I paid $700 last year.

  19. Random Thoughts Avatar
    Random Thoughts

    For the agricultural land in zone one which the Land Tax Commissioner calls “Vacant Land – Residential” the valuation is $166,800. The land changed hands this year through inheritance (not sale). The lawyer was paid $5,300 and the land tax payable for 2011-12 was $1,000 which had to be paid before the transaction could be completed. The Land Tax Commissioner granted a discount of $99.28, so that $900.72 tax was paid for a piece of land in zone one for which permission to build or subdivide has been refused by the Town Planning Department.

  20. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    Gentlemen and ladeis, I do not believeI that we should be paying any increase in land tax in these recessioanary times.

    I also believe that we could help ourselves, for axmample, plant some coconut trees, the one i have planted has become to tall so the guy passes around and pick them, i got $85 form him, i made $135 off my breadfuirt tree from the ones i reached with a stick, mu avocado ripe when there is a dearth in december, i made $338. I cant reach the golden apples and the mankey now would not let me get much of the soursop. In all i made more money off my 2×3 to pay my land tax. Yes I give away some of the fruites of my labour. I dont have to water them.

    If WE all do little thins like that, we can help ourselves. Note that i have said that i dont support any increase in land tax, we need a better method of collecting all taxes owe to government, then perhaps we migh not even have to pay increase in taxes in the future.


  21. @Random Thoughts….girl I was wondering what happened to you. I was about to put out an APB for you. Glad to see you here again.

    I remembered one year receiving a land tax bill that was lower than previous years. When I went to pay I asked why, the clerk checked and told me that I was being over billed the past few years. She told me to bring in the bills for the last three years and she would calculate the refund. Yes a REFUND. So I did as was asked and I did receive a refund cheque. My husband told me that he would never have asked in case they had made a mistake with the lower figure. I wonder if I have a case to appeal this 30% increase?


  22. @just only asking | July 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM | ….you selling fruit now? Be careful you will now need a license for that as well.


  23. this is pure madness ,more harship on the people


  24. Why should property taxes be increased while there are many overcrowded lots next to many of these properties? Where are the owners of these properties? why should someone else have to pay sometimes thousands of dollars to clear other person’s property, only to be taxed higher by government. I understand there is NO LAW to enforce the healthy care of these open overcrowded lots, hence the owners ignore warnings from any Government Dept about the lots being cleaned and the expenses put on there tax bill. i call on government to enforce or make it legal where each property owner MUST keep their property clear of be penalised.


  25. This gov’t joking. I don’t know if they suicidal or they betwitch. Sinkler must be planning to make an adjustment. if they don’t thigns would hav eot be worse than they letting on.


  26. Read Nationnews article “Headache over bad work”.

  27. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    @Scout

    Before you write, check to asceratain what is in the Healt Services Act and Regulations.

  28. just only asking Avatar
    just only asking

    @Hants

    The sooner the government pass and act insisting that tradmen, must be registered, the better for society. Electicians must be registered.

    That is disgusting to rob an old lady, i had an experience where a friend recmmended someone to do some elcetrical work and i had to end up with someone to complete the job and i wont trade him for the world, on another occasion i had to get another mason to complete a job and i am holding on to him as well.. Any thing i want done to the house i now use them.

    It is time that someone establish a database of dishonest workmnen and contractors, how about that? Experience is our best teacher.


  29. @Hants
    You did get butt by a BOVINE in your youth or whao??????LOL

    The bovine knight has already been requested to cease and desist from his proclivity to acquire the entire island. You milking this cow at every opportunity.LOL.


  30. It must be noted that Govts all over the world are desperate for CASH.
    Govts are worse than a rabid army of occupation, since such armies eventually go home.

    While I dont believe that Land taxes should be raised in hard times it is also true that historically many landowners had a very bad attitude to paying.


  31. While government will not change the property tax rates, owners will be asked to pay more because in some cases the valuation is doubled, hence we pay the same rate at a higher valuation which works out to a large increase in property tax.

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