David, but if you ain’t getting it anyway, at least not yet and the ‘trust’ is not there, does it make a difference?

@crusoe. The ccj has not jurisdiction as a appellate court for the oces or trinidad and tobago. barbados , guyana and belieze remain the only signatories for appellate jurisdiction so there will be no region case the ccj can enforce.

Well, weel. I didn’t hear right. You heard Estwick. The man waxed lyrically, with a well crafted speech that acutally made snese. Imagine he abandoned the bluster and shouting he uses tocover lack of substance and be brought out the big gun for them. The man made alot of sense, when he spoke about agriculture. He could move up now. Left Chris scrambling. But I could not believe my ears, Estwick actually said that land must be used to maximise its highest economic value, Arthur to the life. The man had an epiphany and ketch some sense. Estwick also suggested that Guyana should be the place to ease land to do commerical farming, Arthur to the life. If he keeps on like this theDems might actually have someone who could help them guide this country.

@Bajan Truth

The part of Estwick contribution you have omitted is that his argument was framed in the context of the need for Barbados to embrace a food security policy. Not sure Arthur and Estwick are in the same place at all.

the people who know what going on aren’t telling us anything other than we are creating fear by drumming up attention on topic because no action has been taking place. they only just ask for judicial manger to be be put in this last week but the matter has been adjourned till may 2. It looks like a long road ahead to deal with the mess.

@ Cinnamon
I read with interest, your contribution three days ago to the
CLICO detate. There is a missing link in this CLICO saga and
I hope you can help me. Why did the supervisor of Insurance
in Barbados, allow CLICO to continue with investment plans
without Security Deposits being paid? Another question, how
long ago did this practice of no deposit start? Yet another
question, was the post of supervisor of insurance created 3 years
ago? And yet another question , would you say that both parties
are at fault for not spotting this error (BLP 14 years and DLP
1 year before the rippling effects of the world recession began) ?
And finally, since the investors in my opinion aren’t entitled
to one red cent, don’t you think that the investors receiving
their deposits or part thereof is very generous of the present
Government?

In many ways we live in a paradise, but everyday we seem to awaken to a different Barbados. One that has made significant strides in development but at the same time appears to be slipping backwards. Somewhere along the line our leaders appear to have lost their collective way and it appears to be a Caribbean phenomenon. The inability to make hard decisions, to hold fast to certain values we once held dear and individualism seems to have a strangle hold on our politics and politicians.

Take our education ‘system’, if we can call it that and the recent spate of sexual incidents in our schools. Have we sought to look after the social needs of our children by having counselors and social workers in schools? All the while we continue to build extravagant schools but lacking in the required staff. It is as if we are waiting for our very own Columbine. How can we blame our young people for acting like thugs when the example is played out everyday in our politics?

Branded sugar you say? Before we can even think of having viable agricultural industries we must have the most basic of infrastructures in place and currently that does not exist. A farmer related a story of trying to get a form signed at the Ministry of Agriculture and having to wait three weeks for a signature. Try calling and leaving a message for someone there and you will see, if they do get the message, which is unlikely, they will not return your call. This exists throughout the entire ‘system’. We have forgotten what we are trying to achieve.

Maybe in another year or two we will go the route of banning mobile phones while driving, a position I totally agree on, after all it provides an unnecessary distraction. But I ask what about the drunk drivers, aren’t they distracted too? I wonder how many mobile phone users cause accidents as compared to drunk drivers. And will the law speak to police officers driving police cars? Just a thought.

And finally the debacle we find ourselves in now, CLICO. There is little to be said that has not already been voiced in one forum or another. Today I see a regional call on behalf of policy holders in the Eastern Caribbean and yet another friend of Leroy Parris declaring his friendship. But this one was different somehow, words were better chosen, more guarded, better articulated to mind the sensitivities of the general populace. A lesson well taught but probably a little too late. Here again our system fails us and even when the wheels of justice seem to be grinding, it is slow and seems veiled in mystery. Just try calling to ask about the (should be by) now concluded process of Judicial Management at BAICO. And if you didn’t know the law allows for anyone to see the JM’s report. You can try but so far my efforts have been in vain. If I was a conspiracy theorist I would have to believe that decisions are made behind close doors to the disadvantage of the average bajan. Your recourse you ask?

The new Chief Justice ……the system continues to fail us.

DAVID – NOT BU

@David,
People on this blog have been preaching food security for a long time.

Now the ministers are on the bandwagon.

Could it be that they read about it on this blog and like the buzzwords “food security”?

@Hantsie

Could be, what we know if we judge from their references to the blogs in parliament is that they read what people like post :-).

On a serious note, the blogs have demonstrated that they are attuned to what ordinary Bajans are thinking and importantly have a general idea where we need to go as a country.

David of BU;
Thanks.
Very Interesting to know that; The main effect of Judicial Management is to place a moratorium on debt payments

Could tek fa’ evah … While de grass growing de horse starving …

Rose stfu!! stupse

Leroy Parris certainly knew how to win friends and influence people. Everybody said this man is an idiot and has limited command of the English language but the man is not stupid. He used the power he “had” to win friends and influence people who had more book knowledge than himself and outfoxed them all, including the late “great” David Thompson. He died too fast, he should be alive to face this music.

I found Denzil Douglas contradicted himself in that interview badly. At one point he said that he does not see Parris as the owner of the company but to each question following that statement, he refers to “his company” meaning Parris’ company. Through his, Douglas’ friendship with Parris, he took up millions of the St Kitts’ social security funds and put in CLICO. Parris does not care about their friendship or if he and St Kitts get back their money, Parris wants his. Dog!

A friend of mine took his early retirement package and invested most in British American and now has not received a cheque from them in over a year, good thing he had the sense to put some in a bank and this is what he has been living off of. And Leroy Parris living large and in charge. How he sleeps at night is beyond me.

Patrick Hoyos article in yesterday’s Sun is good reading.

Prodigal Son ..

you by any chance know who doing the legal work for Jada ?

I consider this CLICO issue as nothing but a storm in a tea cup.
This government has promised that all policy holders are guaranteed their principle investments in CLICO will be honoured.Why all the fuss?
This CLICO issue will never be a major political issue in the upcoming general elections.It is an issue that the majority of “ordinary Barbadians” is not that interest in.Many average Barbadians do not care about the troubles in CLICO Insurance.In fact many Barbadians viewed insurance as a “rip off” industry that has fleeced and continue to fleece Barbadians out of their hard earned money.
This government has not contributed to the troubles in CLICO Insurance and I see no reason why heat should be put on the government to come up with measures to save CLICO.I believe once the policy holders are guaranteed to get their principle investments in the company back,I think that will satisfy those policy holders.I know and I can appreciate the financial burden that will be put on the economy of Barbados when the government has to deal with those returns,but I do not think it will be that severe to cause any significant damage to our economy.
This CLICO issue is a non-political issue that very few Barbadians worry about.The opponents of this government please look for real issues affecting this country to highlight so that we could have meaningful dialogue on those issues.Stop nit-picking at trivia.

David & BU,I read recently in a Bahamas Newspaper that China is building a massive hotel in The Bahamas and that China wanted to contribute over 8,000.00 workers or about 75% of the workforce on that project.Well,well,well.
Our new masters are at our door.

Negroman
Good to hear from you, hope everything is O.K with you. On a serious note though, you accuse me of being bias towards the BLP but I say it as I see it, but for sure your bias is so strong towards the DLP that you can really say the CLico issue is a storm in a teacup? Well if that is so, that teacup is a VERY big one. PLEASE take the DLP specs off your eyes, I know you can see better than that without them

@Negroman
Are you a jackass, a storm in a teacup? Wait are you Stuart in disguise? if so apologies Mr. PM. Did Parris or perhaps Thompson walk away with their principal or they got their interest. If you had 300,000 or 100,000 invested with Clico to grow your money so you would have sufficent to live on in retirement, would you be satisfied that you will get back 25,000 up front and have to wait 12 years for the remainder. Am I missing something here or you? if your policy matured last year, this year or will mature next year how happy will you be with knowing that Parris suing to get 10m after getting 3.5m before you get yours? I wonder how much David got?

Not an election issue. Jack, 40,000 persons have policies with Clico, the politicians call them greedy and should be grateful; tell them they creating a frnezy and should shut up. And drinking champage with the friends; lied to, questions dodged; Son I can’ wait to put my x and fix those dogs.

NEGROMAN
“In fact many Barbadians viewed insurance as a “rip off” industry”

A few years ago a friend of built a house and I asked her if it is insured. “Insured, you crazy, all insurance companies do , is take your money and you get nothing for it, when something happen they try their best not to pay you”, up to this day she has not insured her house.

I have many friends that the only thing that they have insured is their cars because it is required by law if you want to drive them on the roads. The majority of Bajans don’t trust insurance companies.

CCC
You are one of the biggest jackasses I’ve ever communicated with, anyone who would encourage someone else not to insure their house is a TOTAL idiot. I think it should be compulsory that houses in Barbados be insured, after the little storm we had last year the Barbados government had to spend millions of dollars to assist uninsured house owners; the insured persons were able to claim from their insurance. What if we are hit by a cat 1 or 2 hurricane, can this government repair or rebuild all those damaged houses? I knew you were stupid but I thought you were just playing devil’s advocate, now I know you’re even too stupid to be a devil. I hope Negroman don’t agree with you or I might have to think differntly about him too.

Negroman; With respect.

I think you’ve missed the essential points in the matter.
The important thing, in my estimation, is not that an arguably small portion of the electorate has been directly affected by the CLICO debacle but that David Thompson and Stuart and Sinckler can be seen clearly and directly as giving unwonted comfort to the big-up CLICO executive, Parris, and appear to be much more interested in his personal welfare than in that of the 40,000 or so persons who have been estimated to have had direct hits on their pensions or other investments with CLICO and the other 40,000 or so who would have suffered indirectly. Since the sums are significant to the individuals directly or indirectly affected it can clearly be made a serious election issue by the opposition.

But the important political aspect of the whole story is what it tells us about the ineptness and other negative attributes of the DLP government.

There are legion seeming infelicities surrounding the CLICO story, eg. the apparent effort of the Government to avoid Judicial Management until the bitter end; David Thompson going around the Caribbean from early in the story and apparently taking on CLICO’s debts for the public of barbados in an economic environment that was already horrific for government finances; The termination of the Oversight committee and leaving nothing in its place for nearly a year thereby allowing the company to get away with serious infelicities, perhaps including paying Parris 3.5 million dollars, apparently against the earlier agreement with the Oversight committee; the fact that David Thompson, on his very sick bed when he was incapable of doing any other business for Barbados, tortuously chaired what turned out to be his last Cabinet meeting that worked out a solution of the CLICO crisis that has not yet reached the light of day (except through an early leak on Barbados Today); The fact that the DLP government, to a man, raised not one dissenting voice to all these seeming infelicities.

The list can go on and on. It would therefore be a most inept opposition that would not ensure that everything around CLICO is teased out, dissected and discussed at every gathering in Barbados whenever an election is called and that discussion is almost certain to give reasonable people second thoughts (if such is needed) about their current government, especially when it comes on top of the many clear instances of missteps made in the management of the economy by this Government.

What “storm in a teacup” what?

OFFTOPIC

Yet another former teacher of Louis Lynch School on White Park road has died of Cancer.

@CCC

The writ states that he was paid 3.5 million in jan 2009.

SCOUT

You are so corny.

Prodigal Son

Call and ask them nah… 439-9242

anthony

The nation also said two weeks ago that a bushmaster was an AK 47.