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In Barbados we have perfected the art of avoiding certain issues in the hope that they will fade away. We thank the commenter who submitted the note below.

David

This was copied from The Caribbean Impact – Jan 2008

Racism and the degeneration of Guyana
PART I
By Dr. KEAN GIBSON

I am on a one-year sabbatical from my job at The University of the West Indies, Barbados so most of my time is spent in Guyana which is my research area. I have done research on the Creole language, African-Guyanese culture (Comfa and Kwe-Kwe), but more recently I have been interested in the racism in the society and the political, social and economic consequences of a racial power structure. In the past I would spend my summer vacations and have occasional short visits to the country.

Whenever I return to Barbados it takes me a couple of days to recover from the trauma of the society. Now that I am in Guyana on a more or less continuous basis, I feel that I am living in a pressure cooker, and like many Guyanese, I just want some relief from the tensions in society. The problem in the country is inequality and the consequences of it with respect to differential distribution, rights and duties (which is what racism is about).

I was particularly concerned with a report in the Stabroek News (”Five ERC reports presented to Parliament,” October 19, 2007) where it was stated that studies conducted by the Ethnic Relations Commission (ERC) show that discrimination against African-Guyanese was a ‘perception’:

“The Ethnic Relations Commission (ERC) says studies on five important areas of concern in the country found no real evidence of discrimination but a perception that certain ethnic groups are discriminated against.”

A subsequent notice appeared in Stabroek News (October 28, 2007) where the ERC was inviting African-Guyanese to a forum to discuss their “perceived needs.” The use of the term “perception” implies that nothing needs to be done since discrimination is just a figment of the imagination of African-Guyanese. The discrimination must be a perception because no laws are broken. In South Africa during the apartheid era, and in the Southern United States in the pre-Martin Luther King, Jr. era, laws were passed prohibiting people from living or sitting in certain areas; and if these laws were broken, punishment could then be inflicted. Also, it is in the laws of Guyana that Guyanese cannot own lands in Amerindian areas, but Amerindians can own lands in other areas. So if members of other ethnic groups seek to purchase lands in Amerindian designated areas the discrimination would be very clear since a law would be broken.

There are no such laws with respect to Africans, East Indians and other ethnic groups in the society. Since no laws can be said to be broken with respect to jobs, land distribution and development opportunities in Guyana, the implication is that all is well in the society for racism is nothing more than a perception.

But all is not well. If the word “discrimination” is a poor choice for the experiences of African-Guyanese since racism is not legal in Guyana, then a more apt word is “victimization” where a group of people are singled out for cruel and unjust treatment. There is an informal system (racism is a formal or informal power structure) of privileges and rights operating in the society. When East Indians are accused of racism, they are quick to point out that they lived and worked among Africans and have or had close African friends.

So there is nothing that one can point at to say they are racists – so the racism in nothing more than a perception. But Africans are victims of what is in the hearts of East Indians, and as I have pointed out in The Cycle of Racial Oppression (2003) and Sacred Duty: Hinduism and violence in Guyana (2005), what is written in the Hindu sacred texts. The violent reactions by some East Indians to Cycle (there has been silence on Sacred Duty since I really got to the core of the issue in that book), is that I had the audacity to discuss the formal system of racism that informs their hearts. The racism, and thus inequality, that is promoted in the Hindu sacred texts is a valuable resource which bestows benefits, rights and duties to a group of people and thus must be maintained at all costs and by any means necessary.

One area in which Africans are victimized is in development allocations and thus depriving Africans of the means of earning a living and driving them into poverty thereby injuring their life prospects. If you cannot work, you cannot live. Since the PPP came to power in 1992 a myth was formulated that Africans do not repay loans. That myth became the justification for banks denying loans to Africans, but loans are readily made available to East Indians. The result is that Africans do not apply to banks for loans, and this is then the reason for the ERC in their report concluding that there is no discrimination against Africans in receiving bank loans since Africans do not apply.

The African Cultural Development Association (ACDA) has reported that it applied to the European Union (EU) for funds for a Drum Museum and other social needs. The money was approved by the EU but the disbursement has been stymied by the government and so ACDA has not received the money. There is another instance in which the EU gave money to a Co-op comprising of Africans to assist in developing their farming methods. No sooner was the grant made that an East Indian wrote the EU protesting about the grant and at the same time informing the Minister of Agriculture of his actions. This was done without informing the Co-op members, and only the generosity of the EU facilitated the information reaching the members of the Co-op. Then too, there has been the systematic killing of young African men. There has been no systematic killings of the other ethnic groups. Whether it is by starvation or systematic murder, the PPP has been portraying a sustained and purposeful attempt to destroy Africans. This is genocide.

Guyanese frequently tell me that they are “confused.” The confusion is not surprising for there is evidence of double standards and “double talk.” The President tells the nation that acting positions are not good in that persons needed to be confirmed in their positions to give them security of tenure and to give them the confidence to shield them from the Executive, but he creates acting positions. There are several acting positions in important arms of the state. There is an Acting Police Commissioner, Acting Judges, Acting DPP, Acting Auditor General, Acting Chief Justice and Acting Chancellor. We see images in the newspapers and on television of young men who have been tortured, but the state tells us that torture is not a part of its modus operandi and the wounds may be self-inflicted.

We see that one set of laws and behaviors that apply to a particular group, do not apply to another. Young African men and the poor in the society are summarily executed while surrendering, or killed without firing at the police, or are jailed for committing violent crimes, or committing a robbery. But the white collar crimes that are primarily connected to the narcotics trade, money laundering, trafficking in persons and weapons, and corruption are operations that are above the law, and the culprits are very often not prosecuted. In fact, in a series of articles in Stabroek News (beginning on September 16, 2007), Clive Y. Thomas explains how the state has been reconstituted to become a criminal enterprise.

Despite their criminality, he explains, the state expresses concerns about law and order in the society. However, these are concerns which apply to the ordinary citizens and not to the cabal who do not want their operations stymied. For example, the Minister of Human Services proclaimed a war on sexual violence, but no actions were taken when a Senior Minister in her government allegedly raped a young woman. Ordinary citizens are jailed for assault, but the President took no action against his Minister of Local government who assaulted a young man with a gun, knocked him down with his vehicle and then fired shots in the air. Young African men are criminalized and murdered for resisting their oppression; but as Clive Y. Thomas pointed out (”Above and beyond the law: The ruling elite in the criminal state,” = Stabroek News, September 16, 2007), the state is the same criminal gang which organizes the infamous “phantom force.” The people have all right to be confused by this double standard and double talk – it is a deliberate confusion aimed at making the people think that a moderate position will be taken, but it never happens. It is a confusion which also means that the agenda is to subordinate a group of people.

A major confusion at the moment concerns the Judiciary where the President is attempting to govern the country in contradicting the rules of the Constitution. Due to the President’s intransigence in nominating no one other than Justice Carl Singh for the post of Chancellor, the Constitutional requirement that there be agreement between the President and the Leader of the Opposition has been unfruitful. The President blamed the Constitution for the impasse and went so far as to assert:

“It was not the intention of the constitution reform commission for anything like this to happen and so we will have to find ways to set a precedent or make the necessary change to deal with this.”

There is nothing wrong with the Constitution. The framers of the Constitution knew that Guyana has a racial problem and sought to heal the divisions by making provisions for consensual decisions. The “new precedent” that the President has decided on is to step outside of the Constitution and create the posts of Acting Chief Justice and Acting Chancellor. There are no such posts in the Constitution. The problem began in 2005 with the failure of an agreement between the President and the Leader of the Opposition on who should be the new Chancellor. The President named Justice Carl Singh who is/was the Chief Justice as an Acting Chancellor. In November 2007, Justice Ramlall ruled that one person cannot hold two posts at the same time. The Constitution has set up two courts and a head of each. There is no provision for one person to hold both positions, or for one person to act for another. The government has now decided to deflect the order in another way by creating two acting appointments which are outside of the Constitution. The disobeying of the Supreme Law has been going on for some time which indicates that the President would like to rule by fiat.
Carl Singh with President Jagdeo
What the government has never told the people is whether Justice Carl Singh was in receipt of two salaries – one for Chief Justice and another for Acting Chancellor. It is also known that he advises the government which means he has to be paid. So he is like Popeye – bowling and batting. The obtaining of several salaries is not only an aspect of the white collar crime that is destroying the country, but it reinforces the point made by Clive Y. Thomas (”Above and beyond the law: The ruling elite in the criminal state,” Stabroek News, September 16, 2007) that several persons in the cabal operate in several categories simultaneously.

In Part 11, I will look at the response of the people to the violence that is being inflicted on them by the state

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276 responses to “Indian Racism Against Afro Guyanese In Guyana”


  1. Blacks are the easiest of all races to indoctrinate
    Hence many blacks rather go along to get along
    Blacks history began with slavery where the white slave masters taught blacks how to hate and divide amongst each other
    A trait which stills lives within the mentality of some blacks
    A trait which was indoctrinated in the minds of blacks in slavery and was used by the white slave masters to dehumanized and devalue any worth within the the mind of blacks
    Now comes along the mulatto to continue the evilness of the white slave masters
    But blacks would not be deter
    Try all wunna can but blacks would not give up this time easily
    Lance you are just another piece one of the turds that makes up the puzzle of racism and discrimination


  2. Black made up 60.5 percent of all murder arrests in Missouri in 2012 and 58 percent of all robbery arrests, though they are less than 12 percent of the state’s population. Such vast disparities are found in every city and state in the country; there is no reason to think that Ferguson is any different…New York City is typical: blacks are only 23 percent of the population but commit over 75 percent of all shootings in the city, as reported by the victims of and witnesses to those shootings; whites commit under 2 percent of all shootings, according to victims and witnesses, though they are 33 percent of the city’s population. Blacks commit 70 percent of all robberies; whites, 4 percent.

    Hide from the truth and blame everyone else you bums . Your Full
    Of jealousy, and hate. Your heart are cruel and knows no justice . You love your master and he hates you so you acts as bullies looking for attention. keep playin like your the victims .
    Your the victims With a little childA brain


  3. https://youtu.be/ZRuSS0iiFyo

    I know it hard but be open minded and look at the video. That’s what u have done to Africa and what u want to create everywhere u are, hell.
    Address the truth. Your blamers and complainers who love to blame everyone but yourselves. Hide from the truth it’s only self defeating


  4. Blacks slave history can point to many of the existing problems black have today all instituted at the hands of whites and now encouraged and duly instituted by the mulatto

  5. Felicia Doughtz Avatar

    Post these videos:

    “Dr. Velu Annamalai-The Black Untouchables Of India” Youtube
    “India Untouched” Youtube


  6. Lance March 18, 2020 9:03 PM” “Where I’m from in the US niggrrs fuck the garbage women and thing they can get.”

    @ David BU

    The word ‘n****r’ is a pejorative term for black people. And, no matter how the author spelt it, how he intended to use that word is obvious.

    I’m disappointed you allowed such comments to remain posted on BU and this individual to continue his racists remarks, UNCENSORED.

    Especially when one considers you have DELETED comments from certain individuals that were much, much less offensive…… and issued stern warnings of your intentions if they continued.

    But, I guess this behaviour would be shrouded by ‘freedom of speech.’


  7. @Artax

    The blogmaster responded to a simple Simon last night to your concern.


  8. @David BU

    Okay. I’ll admit I did not read the contributions above the one I referred to.


  9. Wuh kind of response is that David
    Whatever your response to Silly Woman u did not delete that racist raving lunatic comments
    From last night until today his nasty comments about blacks were allowed
    Shame on you David
    Freedom of speech yes however u have in the past used the delete button
    So what is the difference now
    Nobody with a grain of morals would invite such a racist imbecile to spew their venom on a social platform without in as much as a word of warning

  10. Felicia Doughtz Avatar
    Felicia Doughtz

    @everyone,
    Thought provoking Question;
    What is the difference between Lance-Singh & Doctah Kumar Mahabir (Trinidad).
    Overt Vs. covert?


  11. @ David March 19, 2020 12:00 PM

    Blocking would be awarding “Lance” a victory albeit pyrrhic in its impact.

    Let that racist brain of miniscule development burn itself out.

    At least we of sound minds will have the opportunity to see what is really hiding other than the racist ‘nuts’ in the tail of that East Indian monkey.

    He is doing a fantastic PR job of exposing the gushing well of similar mindset among his fellow countrymen of East Indian descent.

    Only goes to show how low down the totem pole blacks are viewed especially those pulling the cart of oppression and exploitation in the Diaspora when a supremacist jackass like Lance can ride and rile them.

    If only black people can imitate the traits of their avian counterparts of similar colour!


  12. So what if others of like racist mentality use this platform to spew racist venom
    Would then it be ok
    When and where is the line drawn
    So why create a platform for racist venom
    What is there to learn
    One comment should have suffice which would have given the reader a clear perspective of Lance racist views
    Enough is Enough


  13. @Miller

    It is useful to give the floor to people like Lance. We live in a real world where opinions expressed by him or her run rampant. Many here who would want to suppress these vile views have no problem with encouraging Barbadians to invest in Guyana.

  14. Felicia Doughtz Avatar
    Felicia Doughtz

    @everyone,
    I support David’a position.
    The arrow by night is much more dangerous.


  15. You’re all a bunch of whiny , crying babies still not addressing the fact that you make up 10% of the population you’re responsible for over 70% of the crime . why is no one addressing this with dancing around it shows me what kind of people you really are . distractors, blamers , whiners, like little children with a brain capacity of an infant . It’s everybody else’s fault but mine lol
    I take balls to stop blaming others


  16. And you whiny bitches I am
    Mixed with Indian, Portuguese and black. My father is black and Indian. I just see the majority of blacks for what they are . Whiners , complainers , deceivers. In the US again less than 10% of the population which is black I was responsible for the 70% of the crime that states volumes and all you ever do is bitch and complain and whine about everybody and you guys have conflicts with every community you live around because why you’re jealous and you can’t figure out that is because the way you live in behave and act it’s shameful it shames me how you behave. In the US again less than 10% of the population which is black Is was responsible for the 70% of the crime. that states volumes and all you ever do is bitch and complain and whine about everybody and you guys have conflicts with every community you live around because you’re jealous and you can’t figure It out . that is because the way you live , behave and act . it’s shameful it shames me how you behave And you’re always ready to cry the racist card and blame everybody . You want to blame everyone but not each other. I don’t control you . I am just an observer .stating what I see .
    Stop being little children. Crying about everything and always the victims everywhere despite data proves your responsible for 70% or more of all crimes everywhere u are.


  17. Miller I am a money at least I cam
    Accept truth. We are genetically 99% a money. But I put 1000$ u lol like a real money . Bitch

  18. Felicia Doughtz Avatar
    Felicia Doughtz

    @Lance 2:25 p.m.

    “I take balls…”
    Oh,ok tnow i understand.


  19. Sista Felicia,

    I have tried empathy but I think what we need now is tough love. You and I have the same goal. We who have freed our minds need to stop bothering about the racists and address our own people.. We can help them to discover why they are failing, we can work through the feelings and then we can give them a hand up. What we cannot do is allow them to stall and linger in the wallowing zone for too long.

    And so again ask you, what would a black government do for the black people in Guyana?

    PS. Why is everyone allowing this barely literate man to bother them. Let him display his ignorance! His language is “providing me with much mirth”.

    The salient points were made by Miller. Even this low grade specimen thinks he can make fun of us. With what shall we fight him – with words or actions?


  20. Why is everyone allowing this barely literate man to bother them?


  21. Ok David u and others who enjoy reading Lance sh.it can do so all by self
    Mariposa gonna pull the window curtain in his face
    But before i go i am about to throw some piss out the window
    Bye scumbag lance
    Enjoy my gift for you


  22. The same
    Thing they have done for blacks when the ran the country for 25 years , They run them into the ghetto while
    Stealing as much as they can. Just like black leaders do all
    Over Africa and that’s why Africa is a hell hole. You notice anywhere blacks run a country it’s in turmoil, there is rampant corruption and Poverty and the biggest joke blacks love it . Like pigs In shit. Once is a black leader doing. Is doing it to them.
    The denial you people live is is comical. Thank God I am stupid like you . Just to prove how stupid blacks are . They love is ghettos is Jamaica and are begging for international investment when the Chinese invest and built they country the became jealous of the Chinese wealth and burned down their business . Now there have no jobs and back
    To poverty and the Chinese left . Lol.

    You can’t run anything and your jealous when others can do it. Your very hateful people and wicked hearted. Funny you complain about racism and even your our blacks are racist against each other. The dark ones hate the light ones . Lol. You people are idiots and love to hate and blame.

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/lead-stories/20170812/china-fights-back-rubbishes-claims-takeover-expresses-concerns


  23. https://nypost.com/2017/03/15/man-in-critical-condition-after-chicken-joint-beatdown/

    That’s the shit we head with everyday with blacks
    The stupidity is unimaginable


  24. ‘I’ll seek help’: Dr Sawh apologises for racist comments | Loop News
    http://www.looptt.com/content/dr-sawh-apologises-racist-comments

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