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Guyana's Hypocritical Immigration Policy Uncovered

Chinese Nationals in Guyana Urged to Keep Documents in Order Published on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 GEORGETOWN, Guyana (GINA): Chinese nationals residing in Guyana are being urged to ensure that all their documents are in order to avoid having to face the full penalty of the law. During a meeting held on Monday at the…

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Chinese Nationals in Guyana Urged to Keep Documents in Order

Published on Wednesday, October 24, 2007

GEORGETOWN, Guyana (GINA): Chinese nationals residing in Guyana are being urged to ensure that all their documents are in order to avoid having to face the full penalty of the law. During a meeting held on Monday at the Chinese Embassy to educate nationals on the importance of proper documentation and the correct procedure that should be used, Home Affairs Minister Clement Rohee urged that they take documentation seriously.

Source:Caribbean Net News

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One of the pillar issues which BU have flogged since our inception is a concern for our open door policy concerning immigration. Many have accused us of being xenophobic and that is OK. We have used simple arguments to support our point that the immigration policy of Babados MUST be regulated. We have used the policy of First World countries to demonstrate our point. USA, Canada and now the EU have implemented or are in the process of ensuring immigrants allowed into their respective countries match their manpower needs. They are expected to add value to the productive capacity of the country. Many First World countries manage their Immigration Policy within a framework of a National Development Plan. It is only Barbados a country with a paucity of resources that believe we should be the home to ALL nationalities. We are a country 21×14, 166 square miles and densely populated. Why is it that our government which is comprised of learned people seems hell bent on operating with this open door policy?

It was refreshing to hear Leader of the Opposition David Thompson in a news clip today speaking in a measured way to this issue. To summarize he suggested that Barbados must develop an Immigration Policy given our limited resources. We know that it is the silly season and Thompson must appear to say the right things. However there is an element of risk associated with speaking to this issue at a time when any nationalistic posture maybe deemed anti-CSME or xenophobic. It seems however that Thompson has assessed the situation well and has come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Barbadians, contrary to Peter Wickham’s pronouncement are concerned about the flood of strange people entering our small country in an unregulated manner. One group which has concerned Barbadians the most has been the Indo-Guyanese.

In was with amusement that we read an article emailed by a member of the BU family ( we thank you V!) which reported the Guyanese Minister of Home Affairs cautioning the growing Chinese population in Guyana that their documents need to be in order or face ‘the full penalty of the law’. We should do justice to Minister Rohee and quote exactly what he told a Chinese gathering in Guyana last week:

 

Documentation is extremely important. You always have to ensure that your documents are in order and that your stay is regularised. The consequences could be very severe because the law could be very unkind,” Rohee said.

Even more amusing was the response by the Guyana Chinese Ambassador to the chiding by Minister Rohee when compared to what we have come to expect from Norman Faria in a similar situation in Barbados:

Abide by the law of Guyana and learn more about it….Over the years we (Chinese) have made significant contribution to the development of this country and have also been able to better our diplomatic relations. Let that continue,” Jungao said.

It should be clear to anyone who want to hear by now that all countries have concerns about unregulated immigration, including Guyana!

 

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41 responses to “Guyana's Hypocritical Immigration Policy Uncovered”

  1. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Don’t forget that this unbridled immigration from Guyana was also about votes for the BLP. the BLP MOVED EARLY so that the majority of these Guyanese would be in Barbados at least three years before the calling of elections. In this way being commonwealth citizens they would be entitled to vote in Barbados elections. Guess who they are going to vote for?
    I put it to you that guyanese are going to make the difference in the next general elections. David Thompson and the DLP had better take this seriously and devised stratagies to counter balance this situation or they are going to loose. Tom Adams did a similar thing. this situation must be highlighted to the Barbadian public.

  2. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    My worry about the voting in the upcoming elections is what percentage of non nationals will be allowed to vote????
    This is not an issue to be taken lighty as I am convinced we will see many of these non nationals with ID cards when voting day comes.
    I trust that the DLP are alert to the threat because there is real and present threat!!!!
    I am saying that there are a number of temporary BARBADOS ID CARDS in vogue around here now in the hands of a lot of NON NATIONALS my concern is how many of these will be converted to permanent ID card?
    We have a desperate gov’t on the verge of being thrown out of office with bundles of corruption to conceal and hide.
    The reason has never been clearer as to why they would go out of their way to steal this election.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    WIV~we asked you yesterday to detail your concerns. How can the BLP manipulate the polls as you are suggesting by using illegal immigrants. As far as we know civil servants are the people who process applications for Nationa ID’s etc not politicians.

  4. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    David you do agree that the Civil Service is there to carry out the wishes of the ruling party ??????

  5. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    It should be clear to anyone who want to hear by now that all countries have concerns about unregulated immigration, including Guyana!
    ———————————————————–

    There are a lot of people in Barbados that cannot give me advise on most things and or have me listen or take the least bit interest in anything much they have to say. Not only the politicians, people like David Ellis, Peter Wickham and other Moderators with their short-sighted pragmatic opinions and view-points, who have spent more time brow beating the public of Barbados for our views on immigration, offering up silly childish arguments that we migrate other countries too, while demanding that we shut up unless we have proof to our concerns. It took Peter Wickham to look critically at Guyana society against the outcome to the recent election to begin to understand the race implications in Guyana. If we appreciate that immigrants are more likely to maintain their indegenous cultural practices for the 1st and to a lesser extent the 2nd generations in a foreign land, how can we ignore the culturaly negative race relations in Guyana and the potential impact these practices will have in our own space with so many of them migrating to Bim? I have no interest in forging cultural ties and linkages with people who have a negative racial view of me, and more so since any coming together with them is to their advantage than the other way around. Guyana is a failed state, and Barbadians should have little interest in bailing them out with them address several glaring issues in their own back yard. Didn’t we loan them 120 million some 30 or 40 years ago? did we get it back? why are we once again aidING them out by giving their destitute citizenS access to a livable wage IN BARBADOS? Guyana has to do for it’s citizen IN GUYANA.

    If my position on Guyanese in Barbados makes me out to be xenophobic in the eyes of the people mention and whom i really don’t have any respect for so be, I will wear it proudly, and will never shut up or sit down.

  6. Avatar
    Anonymous

    NoName

    How come you choose to live in another country, but would deny fellow Caribbeans the same choice?.

    Do as I say , not as I do?

    Similar to BLP.

  7. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    BU i think WIV has a legitimate concern. A few months ago Norman Faria called all Guyanese legall and illegal to a meeting at Solidarity house, he promise them that their identity will be protected, how he could make this promise is open to questions, what was discuss if the meeting ever did occur is also. We have seen a proliferation of networking amongst Guyanese in Barbados holding picnics, celebrating i believe Indian day or Guyanese independence…. I can’t quite recall. The concern is real. Owen Arthur, accuse Mascoll when he was a Dee before he became a Bee, of election fraud in his win in the last election. You don’t think ir is possible? Now remember the pragmatics control the airway and other news media they dictate what is news and set seom high standards for the average non-media practioner to meet in order to have a say, public discours, if Guyanese in Bim takes to the polls in Barbados to maintain a BLP government, (the plurality system only calls for a small swing to change or maintain a government), and even if the public in sufficient numbers comes out and claim that this was the case, there is still the question of proof, that must overcome a potential verdict of “insufficient evidence” at the culmination of a commission of enquiry or High court case. You don’t think that the stakes are that high and the apparatus is in place to risk this course of action to bring about some certainty to the outcome of the polls, in the BLP favour? Do you think that David Simmons could ever truly put of his party hat in such a case? Do you think the DPP would in all honesty not do the same? remember these individuals are more likely to ask the question how can i work within the law yet maintain my personal, and party allegiance to effect a predetermine outcome? There is no real independence of the institutions and mechanism that it is claimed are independent and that are needed to safe guard fair play. If the last election was won by 14,000 votes and the numbers of illegal guyanese are rumoured to twice that number you don’t think that there could be an attempt to use them? There are here enjoying the protection of Owen Arthur.

  8. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Sorry NoName.

    Got your comments mixed up.

  9. sensible man Avatar
    sensible man

    R YOU PEOPLES AWARE THAT SOME STATES IN THE USA R NOW ISSUING DRIVERS LICENCES TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

  10. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Adrian Hinds

    You are so on the ball you can’t imagine.

    The nightmare that will attend us with those indo guyanese flooding this country – is to horrific to start explaining.

    Sorry you are all the way in Boston and not here in Person in Bim – so that you could open you mouth big and loud.

    Those persons who attempt to speak of their concerns and their bad experiences at the hands of guyanese are shouted down by the moderators and IN PARTICULAR CUT OFF BY Mike Brown – the PRODUCER.

    He mussee got a guyanese woman or something.

    Check out what is happening in the USA with the illegal immigrants.

    David Thompson has to start speaking out and putting a plan in place to repatriate these people post haste.

  11. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Anonymous // Oct 31st 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Adrian Hinds

    You are so on the ball you can’t imagine
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    dah aint true Anon the Earth is round (ball like) or as my perception of reality has learnt via my sense of sight tells me. So yes i can imagine being on de ball. 😀 Emmanuel Kant, but Rene Descarte said it best “I think therfore i am” and I am no different than you or Descarte or Kant, you can with all other Barbadians who dare to think and reason and act according to your own rational interpretation of your envoirnment as learn via your very own senses. You don’t need me, you need to act.

  12. de gap Avatar
    de gap

    Caricom non nationals voting in caricom member elections is nothing new, and perfectly legal. Black bajans will decide fate of the PM, as they have since 1950. To the actual topic, the Guyanese hypocrisy is no great revelation. Every member of Caricom complains about “black foreigners” (the white ones are apparently insulated) while at the same time flooding others with their undesirables or in the case of bim our excess black professionals. For me I don’t care one way or the other, but if they’re going to send home all the blacks, then all the whites and off-whites have to go to.

  13. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    Cut me a little slack and allow me to ramble a bit with thoughts about this and that.

    Here is what amazes me about this blog. About four or five hours ago you would have thought no one was reading it because the posts were few and far between. Then the “Guyana’s Hypocritical Immigration Policy Uncovered” hit the blog and the lights lit up. Strange isn’t it certain things get the interest and attention of people while others do not evoke a yawn.

    I read almost every post and to be truthful I then think about them sometimes I spend more time on one than the other, but believe it or not most people who post can evoke your interest in their point of view. I then after assessment decide whether to respond or not. Sometimes I screw up like yesterday when Adrian correctly pointed out that I had misunderstood the Mascoll discussion. But that is OK too I LEARNED from that experience thanks to Adrian.

    Now let me get to my point. I have been reading the many comments generated by this particular post and here is how I see it and analyze it from my perspective having regard for the concerns of most Bajans who post on this blog.

    Follow me in my thinking. Bloggers have long said loud and clear that they are fed up with FOREIGNERS coming to their shores buying up land and pushing up its cost. They have also expressed other serious and negative concerns relating to foreigners coming to Barbados and taking advantage of them. And let me quickly add I think many of the concerns are valid.

    Now the trouble makers and non trouble makers of the Foreign element are I am sure in the most part in Barbados LEGALLY unlike the message I am getting about the Guyanese and other CARICOM intruders. Here is the focus of my thoughts then as a Barbadian.

    Me thinks the illegal CARICOM immigrants whoever they maybe are going to give any process involving the Government a wide birth fearing that if they come in for scrutiny they could be discovered, arrested and deported. If I am correct about this, then people of Barbados have little to fear from that element having any significant impact on the outcome of the election. I think that is a pretty logical way to look at it.

    However, let us turn our attention to the LEGAL immigrant and the ones who have the right to vote. If you believe reports there are about 10,000 of them in Barbados who came to our shores about ten or so years ago. Mainly from the UK but other destinations. Now these are the ones you need to worry about.

    I would say that 95 % of these immigrants are upper middleclass and/or wealthy. Many could well be developers and other movers and shakers that are buying up land, trying to deny you access to beaches, pushing up land costs and fuelling the high cost of living. All of which the Barbadian resent and is bitter about.

    Who do you think these people are going to vote for the DLP or the BLP? I think the answer to that is obvious and that would be my concern and this is the true element of the Foreign population that could sway the vote.

    In the case of the ILLEGAL CARICOM immigrant they are a threat to jobs, social services etc. But as far as influencing the outcome of the vote I think the Foreign element are the ones to fear.

  14. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    de gap

    There is a lot of truth to what you have said.

    I cannot hazzard a guess as to how many “black” non nationals are eligible to vote.

    However, if you believe the press of Barbados approximately 10,000 foreigners from mainly the UK most of whom are probably white came to Barbados over the past ten or so years.

    Included in this number are no doubt many responsible for what the average Bajan is complaining about, buying up land, pushing up land prices, influencing the high cost of living, trying to deny Bajans access to beaches and other right aways etc. The rest are probably upper middle class people.

    Who do you think these people are going to vote for? The DlP or BLP? I think the answer is obvious and this group is the dangerous sway group in barbados who can do it LEGALLY!

    My sense is the legal black non nationals voting will have little impact on the results of the vote. It is the white foreign element in Barbados that poses the danger because they have everything to gain.

    I do not think the Guyana comparison is valid!

  15. David Avatar
    David

    Adrian H and others, we are not convinced by your argument that illegal immigrants in Barbados can vote. We made a call to the Electoral Office and the system which was explained makes it difficult to understand how ‘illegals’ would be able to vote. Remember that at the Polling Booth there is the controversial situation where many people are concerned that the National ID of voters is recorded on the duplicate ballot paper. The ID of the voter must match the ID listed on the voter’s list supplied by the Electoral Office to the Polling Officers. As far as we know the list is inspected by both parties who also compile lists from their own research. Also the people who work at the Polling Booths are respected people in the community, JP’s Retires Civil Servants etc.

    We accept the concerns of commenters but we want to be sure to understand how you think some electoral fraud can occur on voting day. This is a serious matter and we should try to detail our thoughts in a way to provoke constructive discussion.

  16. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    am de gap before i connect your dots i would like for you to tell me a little about them. Now please don’t see this as an attempt to critique but more so as an attempt to learn.

    “de gap // Oct 31st 2007 at 1:09 pm
    Caricom non nationals voting in caricom member elections is nothing new, and perfectly legal. ”
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    I think this justifies WIV alarm don’t you? or do you know the number of Indo Guyanese in Barbados that can likely be swayed one way or the other to be of an insufficient number, and to be at an insufficient level of organization, to effect an election out come in Barbados? Do you think that the number of White immigrants and others not necessarily white but of sufficient economic standing can be swayed in sufficient numbers as a group to effect the outcome of an election?
    ————————————————————

    “Black bajans will decide fate of the PM, as they have since 1950. ”
    ——————-
    Should i view this as knowing the number of Indo guyanese in Barbados, and that they are not sufficient in number and or organization to be counted on for a party vote in Barbados? and that whites and others cannot effect the outcome of an election????? What is the bases for this view other than it’s historic precedents? in your opinion have you taken into account the growth of immigration in the last 5-10 years?
    ———————————————————–
    “To the actual topic, the Guyanese hypocrisy is no great revelation. Every member of Caricom complains about “black foreigners” (the white ones are apparently insulated) while at the same time flooding others with their undesirables or in the case of bim our excess black professionals.”
    ——————
    My concern is with Indo guyanese and it is from a racial perspective. What is the excess of black professionals that Barbados is sending to other countries? please develop this for me.
    ————————————————————

    “For me I don’t care one way or the other, but if they’re going to send home all the blacks, then all the whites and off-whites have to go to.”
    ——————
    Are we talking about the same thing ? I believe the concern is with Indo guyanese, but i am, and will always be in favour of the law, and if you are breaking it and you are caught then the penalty must be administered, and that goes for black, white, indo or any other.

  17. Idealist Avatar
    Idealist

    The electoral law is, as I understand it, any Commonwealth citizen (incl. Guyanese ) residing LEGALLY in Barbados for the previous 3 years is entitled to vote in a General Election.

  18. Avatar
    Anonymous

    NoName whilst you are rambling, are you the one the Canadians need to worry about peddling this hypocritical racism from your adopted bolt hole.

  19. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Adrian H and others, we are not convinced by your argument that illegal immigrants in Barbados can vote. We made a call to the Electoral Office and the system which was explained makes it difficult to understand how ‘illegals’ would be able to vote.
    ——————————————————-
    Of course illegals cannot vote and should not be allowed too. But i paint a picture as only a skeptic to the degree that i am can do. What if there is an attempt? we know the civil service has been used over the years to pack party faithfuls, I think we recently had a case of known thief being kick out of port to only land at the defense ministry to supercede others. So it is not inconceivable to get favours past. At the polling station while it is true that the diversity of people there is as good a deterrent to potential fraud, they are not immune from turning a blind eye leaving it up to those from one party affiliation to raise the concern. When one party cries foul it would be easier to fight. I am willing to admit that it is a bit of a stretch on my part, but the difficulty of it does not make it an inconceivable thing to attempt, ……I just find a little difficult to believe that the only reason we have all these poor indo Guyanese in Bim is as the IMF reports say, and that is to moderate wages downward, what is in it for the political class?

  20. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Idealist // Oct 31st 2007 at 4:02 pm

    The electoral law is, as I understand it, any Commonwealth citizen (incl. Guyanese ) residing LEGALLY in Barbados for the previous 3 years is entitled to vote in a General Election.
    ———————————————————–
    So if this is true it is simply a matter of “regularizing” ones status. How many persons and or government institutions would be need to be involve in such a scam? What was the meeting that Norman Faris called for all Guyanese legal and illegal? what was discuss? did they recieve anything, paper, card etc? was the meeting ever held?

    Ok, two things are needed. The act dealing with voting eligibility and the rules governing identification procedure before casting your ballot. It’s been a while since i voted in Bim,

  21. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    Anonymous.

    With respect would you re-word your post so that it makes sense. I personally do not understand what you are saying.

    Maybe you are one of the illegal immigrants in Barbados who speaks only patois and most Barbadians me included are not familiar with this dialect.

  22. Avatar
    Anonymous

    NoName:

    Do you still live in GTA or Bim?

    You are confusing me.

  23. Thistle Avatar
    Thistle

    Anonymous:

    Give up, my friend. Waste of time. Only a few of us on here have figured out (or psycho-analysed – if you like big words!) this Crazy for what he really is.
    One minute he lives in Barbados, next minute he lives in Canada. Take your pick!

  24. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    Anonymous I am a Barbados Citizen do I ask you or the other Psycho “Thistle” about your personal business ? Do you see any other bloggers doing this? You guys/gals are like the sickos that attack Adrian Loveridge. You need to get a life!

    The blog communitiy realizes that you and Thisltle are the garbage hunters of blogs that cointribute nothing to useful debate.

    Focus and contribute to the discussion. That should be the focus of us ALL.

  25. Thistle Avatar
    Thistle

    David of BU:

    YOU are the moderator and manager of this blog. I know many people who read the posts on here, but do not contribute, for one reason or another. Would you be kind enough to tell me if you have any objection to someone READING these posts, but not necessarily contributing?

  26. David Avatar
    David

    Thistle ~What a strange request. Thousands do it every week. They read everyday and go about their business.

  27. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    Another foolish question, or they contribute with meaningless and personal attacks on other commenters for strictly uterior motives and in trying to defeat the real purpose of the blog. And that is to give ALL people the opportunity to express opinions.

    What business is it who comments, where they are living etc. Is this the business of anyone? Do we see other responsible bloggers going down this infantile road of nonsense?

    The Blog gives all the opportuinty to express freely opinions and dialogue, people like Anonymous and not the intelligent one and Thistle are strictly shit disturbers. They are not credible contributors!

    I started contributing to the DLP Blog and they got after me. And it was so obvious because until I contributed to the DLP Blog not one Barbadian was doing this.

    I VOLUNTARILY discontinued using the DLP Blog because I like Yum Yum I like it found it to be operated in a very slack fashion and since I did I see no one replacing me, why is Anonymous and Thistle not taking the opportunity to do so? Because their mandate is to create mayhem on any blog for ulterior motives. They contibute nothing of substance!

    I have nothing further to say to Thistle or Anonymous!

  28. Thistle Avatar
    Thistle

    Thank you, David.

  29. David Avatar
    David

    Adrian~the person after living three years must regularize their status by applying for citizenship. The last time we checked it was not a straight forward process.

  30. Avatar
    Anonymous

    The hypocrisy of NoName NoCredence Allamby in Toronto, making racist statements about our fellow Guyanese being denied lawful entry to Barbados whilst allowing himself the very privilege he denies to other perhaps less fortunate, economic refugees.

    As for useful debate, he should be up front with his perverted racist and filthy language before addressing this blog purporting to be the epitome of a long suffering Bim-based citizen.

    How can you spout such an isolationist message
    when you yourself have left your country for brighter prospects?

  31. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    David there is one thing about this subject (Immigration) that to my knowledge is not correct.

    In Australia I am led to believe with some certainty that they have very strict immigration policies that are based on among other things or are more focused on immigrants with skills that the country needs. I also think they have a very tough position when it come to refugees.

    I am told that in Canada their immigration policy is somewhat of a joke and they have thousands of refugees still waiting to be processed. Though Canada does CONSIDER as only one element skills needed by that country it is not the main point that determines entry or no entry.

    The USA of all has in my opinion one of the toughest immigration laws but it all goes for naught when looking at their illegal Mexican problem.

    Having said all of that it is my opinion that here in Barbados most of our security laws are flawed none more so than the Immigration law.

    I think you will find that most countries do have problems with illegal immigrants but one would think in a small jurisdiction like Barbados they would be better abl;e to control it.

    But I have long said that Barbados has in it many non CARICOM illegals some of whom have small businesses and no one seems to care about that.

    The concern that these immigrants in Barbados could unduly influence the outcome of ban election is in my opinion unfounded. Illegals are not going to get involved with any system that might expose them to being caught.

    The illegals are mainly if anything taking away jobs from Bajans and in some instances illegally collecting social benefits.

  32. de gap Avatar
    de gap

    “Barbados for Bajans?”

    No body is talking about illegal immigrants! Caricom nationals who satisfy the residency requirement can lawfully vote in any election, and that has been the case for decades. The only reason “illegal Guyanese” would have to come out of the shadows and vote in an election is if David Thompson had the “bottle” to include in his manifesto the mass deportation of all illegal immigrants, and I can tell you now, David Thompson doesn’t have the “bottle”.

    Adrian Hinds,
    There isn’t an island in the Caribbean where you won’t find bajan teachers, lawyers, accountants, policemen, MBA’s et al. Barbados exports its unskilled labor to the US, Canada, and UK, but we still export a significant number of degreed professionals to other Caricom nations, and they work and vote in those countries. Why do we have a large excess of black professionals? Because white expats with the same qualifications are given priority over locals. As for influencing the election, non nationals, black, white, or coolie are dispersed throughout the country/constituencies, so that their voting block (if they all decided to vote the same way) will be insignificant. If you had thousands/hundreds in one constituency of like mind then…

  33. Tony Avatar
    Tony

    These blogs are read by persons all over the world and I believe that contributors can disagree with or critique each other without becoming personal. It shows lack of character when one has to descend to that level.

  34. David Avatar
    David

    Tony we agree with you but maybe it explains why an intelligent specie known as human can resort to guns and other weapons to solve problems? Then we might expect some interpersonal conflicts on the blogs 🙂

    de gap when we read WIV we came away with the impression that there was concerned about the ability of the large immigrant Guyanese population, many known to be illegal, to vote at the next polls. We hope this explanation explains why we have been at pain to explain the process of an illegal immigrant becoming an eligible voter.

  35. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    Adrian Hinds,
    There isn’t an island in the Caribbean where you won’t find bajan teachers, lawyers, accountants, policemen, MBA’s et al. Barbados exports its unskilled labor to the US, Canada, and UK, but we still export a significant number of degreed professionals to other Caricom nations, and they work and vote in those countries.
    ———————————————————are you suggesting that the number of professional Barbadians in neighbouring territories are any where as high as the number of Illegal Guyanese that are rumoured to be in Bimshire? And while i am of the view that nothing has ever been done to stymie the flow of unskilled Bajans to North America, North America has never been overly concern with the numbers of immigrants from the Caribbean. Don’t confuse the current concerns in America with immigration as a direct concern with the paltry numbers from the English speaking Caribbean. It has taken the rumoured 13-16 million Hispanic immigrant population to get Americans to the point that Barbadians are at with illegal Guyanese. In fact i would argue that the dynamics are very similar.

  36. Adrian Hinds Avatar
    Adrian Hinds

    David said:
    Adrian~the person after living three years must regularize their status by applying for citizenship. The last time we checked it was not a straight forward process.
    ——————————————————
    Ok fair enough, so are you confident that the documents that one needs to produce to demonstrate citizenship, and by extention that they would need to produce in order to exercise the right of a citizen to vote, cannot be reproduce, altered enmass to facilitate fraud at the polls? Did we not have a problem with stolen passports and or altered passports? Isn’t this document more difficult to fraudently reproduce and or altered than a birth certificate, INS card, and a Indentification card? assuming that one or all three of these documents must be produce to vote. I am told that my name is still on the voters list for St. Thomas or St. James Central. Could you check for me? and i left since 1993.

  37. Heaven Avatar
    Heaven

    AS far as influencing the next election is concerned, don’t be surprised if there is an announcement about amnesty for illegals.This would regularise their status and allow them to vote.I have been told by many non nationals that if they could vote , it would be for the BLP.

    There are not only thousands of Guyanese in Barbados but many , Jamaicans, Vincentians, Dominicans, ST.Lucians , plus many white Europeans , legal and illegal.

    Owen Arthur makes his big pronouncements about CSME and Barbados having an aging population.Our PMdoes not realise , or care,that these immigrants ,especially those from Caricom have no intention of paying NIS or PAYE.The money they earn is to remitted to their families overseas while they try to access our free services.

    If noone wants to pay the exorbitant taxes that exist in this country , how will Barbados survive ?
    The illegal immigrants are flocking to Barbados because of our standard of living but they have no intention of paying taxes to maintain it.

    I challenge our politicians to go into the streets to talk to the people , not sit on their thrones and spew nonsense from their mouths about immigration and CSME.

    To our PM I say just because you say something doesn’t make it right or true.
    You don’t live the reality of everyday life in Barbados being taken over by criminals and unruly people from other countries.

  38. No Name Avatar
    No Name

    I doubt “Amensty” alone gives you the right to vote.

  39. Niska Avatar
    Niska

    ‘Guyana’s Hypocritical Immigration Policy Uncovered’, that is the name of this topic. Guyana should expect other countries to do to their nationals what they do to foreigners in their country. Barbados has so many illegal immigrants because the system has so many loop holes. many come on 2 week holiday and never leave. when i lived in Barbados i knew of a guyanese family where the mother came on holiday and liked it so much and did not leave. she then got a job that she was not qualified to do with a good wage and brought her children over. after completing a cheap private school with no cxc’s to show they too go good jobs, without, might i add, NIS numbers. They were nice people but i don’t believe that is fair when I who studied in UK had to pay £8000 a year in tuition plus visa fees to name but a few extra costs and you can’t get a good job over here without having an NIS number and decent qualifications or experience. I wonder how much we charge UK nationals to study here? is it the equivalent of £8000 – £12000 for a degree (this is not even a masters)? Follow the link below to see the answer. I think the rules should be the same in all countries. We shouldn’t welcome other people’s nationals when they make us jump through hoops.

    http://www.cavehill.uwi.edu/financial-info/undergraduate-fees.htm

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